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What's the Problem with Soy?
I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things
made from it. So I'm curious...why? I've never really used soy products before going low-carb, but I'm not having any problems with them now that I'm aware of. ----- Bev |
What's the Problem with Soy?
It always amazes me that there are people like you out there who have
nothing better to do with their time except harass and irritate people. Why don't you go suck on a soybean already? It would be time better spent than coming around here and spewing insults about something you have no clue about.... According to QUACK Atkins, EVERY FOOD is bad except raw naked flesh from dead animals. If it aint bloody, it aint food !!! Atkins was a vampire of sorts, he had to have blood in every food item. |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Bev-Ann burbled across the ether:
I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things made from it. So I'm curious...why? I've never really used soy products before going low-carb, but I'm not having any problems with them now that I'm aware of. Some people are sensitive to it-- the soy mimics feminine hormones and can mess up a delciate system. An occasional use, here and there probably won't be a problem, especially if you have never noticed trouble before. But daily/heavy use might be. Something to be aware of, that's all. Google the group on soy for more indepth discussion. -- revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please People who like to listen to Frank Sinatra die of heart attack and cancer at far higher rates than people who like to listen to Britney Spears. Therefore, there is a link between the music of Frank Sinatra and heart disease and cancer. --Tony Lew |
What's the Problem with Soy?
burbled across the ether:
According to QUACK Atkins, EVERY FOOD is bad except raw naked flesh from dead animals. If it aint bloody, it aint food !!! Atkins was a vampire of sorts, he had to have blood in every food item. And this is saving us from ourselves how again? Oh yeah that's right, you FAILED at being a messiah so you decided to take on the opposite number. Did you read about this in 'how to make friends and influence people'? I suggest you get your money back. -- revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was Us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things. {Jingo, 1997} |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Eileen Dougal wrote:
It always amazes me that there are people like you out there who have nothing better to do with their time except harass and irritate people. Could be worse, he could be tutoring school children ... grin CM |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Hi,
On 4-Apr-2004, Bev-Ann wrote: I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things made from it. So I'm curious...why? I've never really used soy products before going low-carb, but I'm not having any problems with them now that I'm aware of. Soy is a source of phytoestrogens, which is just a fancy way of saying plant-sourced estrogens. Some people are not able to stick extra estrogens in their system without getting symptoms like tender breasts, water retention, etc. That's why I have to avoid a lot of soy. If I wanted that kind of misery I'd take BC pills. ;-) Others avoid soy because there's some evidence that overconsumption (the definition of which varies from person to person) can negatively impact on thyroid function. Take care, Carmen |
What's the Problem with Soy?
burbled across the ether:
Wow, WOW, W O W ..... That explains my tender breasts. My dick is tender too. Is that because of the soy bean I ate last week, or because I have to jack off all the time now, ever since I left my wife. She was spending all her time with some maggot ridden dead guy named Atkins. She loved him more than me, so I left her. Bwahahahahahahaha. The truth is out. Such a loser that your wife left you for a dead man. Bwhahahahahahahaha. -- revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please Never do anything that you wouldn't want to explain to the paramedics. |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Thanks for the info, revek and Carmen. I googled the group as revek
suggested and found a lot of interesting stuff. on Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:18:52 GMT, "Carmen" wrote: Soy is a source of phytoestrogens, which is just a fancy way of saying plant-sourced estrogens. Some people are not able to stick extra estrogens in their system without getting symptoms like tender breasts, water retention, etc. That's why I have to avoid a lot of soy. If I wanted that kind of misery I'd take BC pills. ;-) Others avoid soy because there's some evidence that overconsumption (the definition of which varies from person to person) can negatively impact on thyroid function. Take care, Carmen ----- Bev |
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What's the Problem with Soy?
If soy works for you then you don't need to worry but for some women it causes
trouble because it mimics estrogen and can mess up their hormones. Estrogen, especially unopposed estrogen (meaning without balancing it with progesterone) can encourage the growth of reproductive cancers such as endometrial cancer - currently the number one cancer of women. Also in my case I just hate the taste of soy flour and even before I had the cancer problem I tried to avoid anything that had soy flour in it. Oddly enough I didn't mind the taste of tofu and ate lots of Chinese food with it in it but tofu seems much milder than soy flour. Debra |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Bev-Ann wrote:
I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things made from it. So I'm curious...why? In addition to the estrogen mentioned in other posts, some have thyroid interaction when they eat large amounts of soy. If you are on thyroid pills, read up before having more than an occasional dish of tofu, then make an educated decision. |
What's the Problem with Soy?
"Crafting Mom" wrote in message ... Eileen Dougal wrote: It always amazes me that there are people like you out there who have nothing better to do with their time except harass and irritate people. Could be worse, he could be tutoring school children ... grin CM The thing I don't get is why vegetarians are always so angry. They are filled with hatred and it is their entire life effort to spew hatred at people. Ev. |
What's the Problem with Soy?
"Carmen" wrote in message ... On 5-Apr-2004, wrote: My dick is tender too. Is that because of the soy bean I ate last week, or because I have to jack off all the time now, ever since I left my wife. She was spending all her time with some maggot ridden dead guy named Atkins. She loved him more than me, Small wonder. Maggots would start to look attractive when compared to you. so I left her. Lucky her. Carmen A maggot is probably bigger than his dick too! Hee hee. Ev. |
What's the Problem with Soy?
The thing I don't get is why vegetarians are always so angry. They are
filled with hatred and it is their entire life effort to spew hatred at people. BRBR Oh come on. That's silly. |
What's the Problem with Soy?
The thing I don't get is why vegetarians are always so angry. They are
filled with hatred and it is their entire life effort to spew hatred at people. Oh come on. That's silly. Sometimes vegetarians are just born. My 13 year old son does not like meat. He likes vegetables and fruit. He is not overweight, he is in great shape. I have tried different ways to get him to eat meat, he just does not like it. He likes seafood sometimes though. Salads is his favorite. He can make some awesome ones. He is not angry or he doesn't spew hatred. So to say all vegetarians are like that, is not true. Not sure why he spews hatred, the one you are talking about. There can be all sorts of reasons. I know I don't have to be a part of it. So I decided not to. |
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Evelyn Ruut quoth:
The thing I don't get is why vegetarians are always so angry. They are filled with hatred and it is their entire life effort to spew hatred at people. Geez. Generalize much? Gandhi was so overflowing with hatred, wasn't he? Priscilla -- "I think I might give growing up a miss. After all, I've left it rather late, and what would be the point?" Chris Malcolm in alt.support.menopause |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Bev-Ann wrote in message . ..
I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things made from it. So I'm curious...why? I've never really used soy products before going low-carb, but I'm not having any problems with them now that I'm aware of. ----- Bev Here is some info on soy: http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html TC |
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On 6 Apr 2004 11:14:51 -0700, (tcomeau)
announced in front of God and everybody: Bev-Ann wrote in message . .. I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things made from it. So I'm curious...why? I've never really used soy products before going low-carb, but I'm not having any problems with them now that I'm aware of. ----- Bev Here is some info on soy: http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html Here's some mo http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/ (In the interest of full disclosure, I use soy protein powder a few times a week. But there are certainly compelling reasons to limit soy consumption.) Dawn |
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Priscilla H Ballou wrote:
Evelyn Ruut quoth: The thing I don't get is why vegetarians are always so angry. They are filled with hatred and it is their entire life effort to spew hatred at people. Geez. Generalize much? Gandhi was so overflowing with hatred, wasn't he? Oh, that is too funny! Good one! I think you should get a prize for that response or something. :-) Priscilla -- nimue "There was a time when I was young and gay -- but straight." Max Bialystock Do not taunt happy fun ball. SNL |
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Soy also blocks thyroid function.
wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:18:52 GMT, "Carmen" wrote: Hi, On 4-Apr-2004, Bev-Ann wrote: I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things made from it. So I'm curious...why? I've never really used soy products before going low-carb, but I'm not having any problems with them now that I'm aware of. Soy is a source of phytoestrogens, which is just a fancy way of saying plant-sourced estrogens. Some people are not able to stick extra estrogens in their system without getting symptoms like tender breasts, water retention, etc. That's why I have to avoid a lot of soy. If I wanted that kind of misery I'd take BC pills. ;-) Others avoid soy because there's some evidence that overconsumption (the definition of which varies from person to person) can negatively impact on thyroid function. Take care, Carmen Wow, WOW, W O W ..... That explains my tender breasts. My dick is tender too. Is that because of the soy bean I ate last week, or because I have to jack off all the time now, ever since I left my wife. She was spending all her time with some maggot ridden dead guy named Atkins. She loved him more than me, so I left her. |
What's the Problem with Soy?
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Bev-Ann wrote: I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things made from it. So I'm curious...why? I've never really used soy products before going low-carb, but I'm not having any problems with them now that I'm aware of. ----- Bev If you're a man, (I assume you are not.) it can make your dick shrink. Hmm, maybe we should feed it to W. |
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Regarding soy, this is what I've heard: When tofu gained in popularity, the
soy manufacturers noticed that there was quite of leftover "stuff" (soy protein isolate-soy waste product). The food manufacturers couldn't stand the idea of throwing this junk away so they created a market for it: cereal, protein powders, meal replacement bars, pasta, soy ice cream, etc. This stuff is nothing but junk. If you're a woman, please keep in mind that the natural estrogens found in soy contribute to breast cancer and a host of other female complications. Naturally, the food industry advertised all this stuff as being healthy but it's actually detrimental to your health. Please avoid these products. -Spyglass wrote in message ... On Mon, 05 Apr04 04:27:42 GMT, Bev-Ann wrote: I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things made from it. So I'm curious...why? I've never really used soy products before going low-carb, but I'm not having any problems with them now that I'm aware of. ----- Bev According to QUACK Atkins, EVERY FOOD is bad except raw naked flesh from dead animals. If it aint bloody, it aint food !!! Atkins was a vampire of sorts, he had to have blood in every food item. |
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The Silk Soy Milk has zero cholesterol and 3 net Carbs. It isn't bad as
for taste, but I suppose I need to do more research, wasn't aware of the health hazards. BTW JIF Peanut Butter now has a 4gm Carb version, and only cost $1.65..yum.. Faye |
What's the Problem with Soy?
I think the OP was talking about not-so-natural soy products like those low carb
tortilla, whatever. I am tired of telling people there shouldn't be anything wrong about eating natural soy products. People who call soy dangerous often lug the original bean itself together with all these strange chemical stuffs derived from beans. It's like hydrogenated oil, the oil itself is harmless but once it's been put through strange processes it's no wonder it's going to cause harm to those who eat it. Same with soy, soy milk, soy sauce, fermented soy products. There was a poster in here a while ago said that soy is dangerous because she's started to have bleeding in between periods after, according what she's written, been eating products produced using soya isolate in practically every meal for a week. Now why would someone do that is beyond me - Think of having a diet of pure margarine. For a week. To her credit, she did say that the natural products are alright and the soya isolate was the one to blame. But this point was not spelled out until it's half way through her 3-mile long post. Then there is this concern about the hormones like stuffs in the bean. I wonder how many beans one must eat to get the same dose as one can get from a pill. wrote: The Silk Soy Milk has zero cholesterol and 3 net Carbs. It isn't bad as for taste, but I suppose I need to do more research, wasn't aware of the health hazards. BTW JIF Peanut Butter now has a 4gm Carb version, and only cost $1.65..yum.. Faye |
What's the Problem with Soy?
I'm the OP and at the time I posted the question I didn't know what
different types of soy products there are available. I was asking because I have started eating black soy beans 3 to 5 times a week and use a combination of soy protein isolate and soy flour as a replacement for wheat flour in baking. I do eat the Atkins cold cereals on the weekends, but those are the only frankenfoods I buy containing soy. I don't eat tofu or use soy sauce. It's been 4 and a half months since I started LC and using soy in these forms. My periods have become more frequent (every 3 weeks) but my doctor says that can happen on any diet where you lose weight quickly and the addition of the small amount of soy such as I'm consuming is likely coincidental. He said my periods should regulate themselves again in another month or 2. on Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:31:02 +0100, Ada Ma wrote: I think the OP was talking about not-so-natural soy products like those low carb tortilla, whatever. I am tired of telling people there shouldn't be anything wrong about eating natural soy products. People who call soy dangerous often lug the original bean itself together with all these strange chemical stuffs derived from beans. It's like hydrogenated oil, the oil itself is harmless but once it's been put through strange processes it's no wonder it's going to cause harm to those who eat it. Same with soy, soy milk, soy sauce, fermented soy products. There was a poster in here a while ago said that soy is dangerous because she's started to have bleeding in between periods after, according what she's written, been eating products produced using soya isolate in practically every meal for a week. Now why would someone do that is beyond me - Think of having a diet of pure margarine. For a week. To her credit, she did say that the natural products are alright and the soya isolate was the one to blame. But this point was not spelled out until it's half way through her 3-mile long post. Then there is this concern about the hormones like stuffs in the bean. I wonder how many beans one must eat to get the same dose as one can get from a pill. ----- Bev |
What's the Problem with Soy?
I'm the OP and at the time I posted the question I didn't know what
different types of soy products there are available. I was asking because I have started eating black soy beans 3 to 5 times a week and use a combination of soy protein isolate and soy flour as a replacement for wheat flour in baking. I do eat the Atkins cold cereals on the weekends, but those are the only frankenfoods I buy containing soy. I don't eat tofu or use soy sauce. It's been 4 and a half months since I started LC and using soy in these forms. My periods have become more frequent (every 3 weeks) but my doctor says that can happen on any diet where you lose weight quickly and the addition of the small amount of soy such as I'm consuming is likely coincidental. He said my periods should regulate themselves again in another month or 2. on Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:31:02 +0100, Ada Ma wrote: I think the OP was talking about not-so-natural soy products like those low carb tortilla, whatever. I am tired of telling people there shouldn't be anything wrong about eating natural soy products. People who call soy dangerous often lug the original bean itself together with all these strange chemical stuffs derived from beans. It's like hydrogenated oil, the oil itself is harmless but once it's been put through strange processes it's no wonder it's going to cause harm to those who eat it. Same with soy, soy milk, soy sauce, fermented soy products. There was a poster in here a while ago said that soy is dangerous because she's started to have bleeding in between periods after, according what she's written, been eating products produced using soya isolate in practically every meal for a week. Now why would someone do that is beyond me - Think of having a diet of pure margarine. For a week. To her credit, she did say that the natural products are alright and the soya isolate was the one to blame. But this point was not spelled out until it's half way through her 3-mile long post. Then there is this concern about the hormones like stuffs in the bean. I wonder how many beans one must eat to get the same dose as one can get from a pill. ----- Bev |
What's the Problem with Soy?
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle...ID=5660167& s
ection=news .. . . To investigate, the researchers analyzed uterus biopsy specimens taken from 376 postmenopausal women who were randomly selected to receive soy or inactive "placebo" tablets for 5 years. Biopsy specimens were obtained at the beginning of the study, after 30 months, and at the end of study period. A total of 298 women completed the full trial. None of the biopsy specimens showed evidence of cancer. However, nearly 4 percent of women in the soy group developed endometrial hyperplasia compared with none of the women in the placebo group. These findings, the authors note, "call into question the long-term safety of (soy) phytoestrogens with regard to the endometrium." SOURCE: Fertility and Sterility, July 2004. Soy Linked to Thickening of Endometrial Lining In a small group of women soy causes the same precancerous changes as estrogen overdose. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.7 . Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm "Bev-Ann" wrote in message ... I'm the OP and at the time I posted the question I didn't know what different types of soy products there are available. I was asking because I have started eating black soy beans 3 to 5 times a week and use a combination of soy protein isolate and soy flour as a replacement for wheat flour in baking. I do eat the Atkins cold cereals on the weekends, but those are the only frankenfoods I buy containing soy. I don't eat tofu or use soy sauce. It's been 4 and a half months since I started LC and using soy in these forms. My periods have become more frequent (every 3 weeks) but my doctor says that can happen on any diet where you lose weight quickly and the addition of the small amount of soy such as I'm consuming is likely coincidental. He said my periods should regulate themselves again in another month or 2. on Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:31:02 +0100, Ada Ma wrote: I think the OP was talking about not-so-natural soy products like those low carb tortilla, whatever. I am tired of telling people there shouldn't be anything wrong about eating natural soy products. People who call soy dangerous often lug the original bean itself together with all these strange chemical stuffs derived from beans. It's like hydrogenated oil, the oil itself is harmless but once it's been put through strange processes it's no wonder it's going to cause harm to those who eat it. Same with soy, soy milk, soy sauce, fermented soy products. There was a poster in here a while ago said that soy is dangerous because she's started to have bleeding in between periods after, according what she's written, been eating products produced using soya isolate in practically every meal for a week. Now why would someone do that is beyond me - Think of having a diet of pure margarine. For a week. To her credit, she did say that the natural products are alright and the soya isolate was the one to blame. But this point was not spelled out until it's half way through her 3-mile long post. Then there is this concern about the hormones like stuffs in the bean. I wonder how many beans one must eat to get the same dose as one can get from a pill. ----- Bev |
What's the Problem with Soy?
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle...ID=5660167& s
ection=news .. . . To investigate, the researchers analyzed uterus biopsy specimens taken from 376 postmenopausal women who were randomly selected to receive soy or inactive "placebo" tablets for 5 years. Biopsy specimens were obtained at the beginning of the study, after 30 months, and at the end of study period. A total of 298 women completed the full trial. None of the biopsy specimens showed evidence of cancer. However, nearly 4 percent of women in the soy group developed endometrial hyperplasia compared with none of the women in the placebo group. These findings, the authors note, "call into question the long-term safety of (soy) phytoestrogens with regard to the endometrium." SOURCE: Fertility and Sterility, July 2004. Soy Linked to Thickening of Endometrial Lining In a small group of women soy causes the same precancerous changes as estrogen overdose. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.7 . Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm "Bev-Ann" wrote in message ... I'm the OP and at the time I posted the question I didn't know what different types of soy products there are available. I was asking because I have started eating black soy beans 3 to 5 times a week and use a combination of soy protein isolate and soy flour as a replacement for wheat flour in baking. I do eat the Atkins cold cereals on the weekends, but those are the only frankenfoods I buy containing soy. I don't eat tofu or use soy sauce. It's been 4 and a half months since I started LC and using soy in these forms. My periods have become more frequent (every 3 weeks) but my doctor says that can happen on any diet where you lose weight quickly and the addition of the small amount of soy such as I'm consuming is likely coincidental. He said my periods should regulate themselves again in another month or 2. on Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:31:02 +0100, Ada Ma wrote: I think the OP was talking about not-so-natural soy products like those low carb tortilla, whatever. I am tired of telling people there shouldn't be anything wrong about eating natural soy products. People who call soy dangerous often lug the original bean itself together with all these strange chemical stuffs derived from beans. It's like hydrogenated oil, the oil itself is harmless but once it's been put through strange processes it's no wonder it's going to cause harm to those who eat it. Same with soy, soy milk, soy sauce, fermented soy products. There was a poster in here a while ago said that soy is dangerous because she's started to have bleeding in between periods after, according what she's written, been eating products produced using soya isolate in practically every meal for a week. Now why would someone do that is beyond me - Think of having a diet of pure margarine. For a week. To her credit, she did say that the natural products are alright and the soya isolate was the one to blame. But this point was not spelled out until it's half way through her 3-mile long post. Then there is this concern about the hormones like stuffs in the bean. I wonder how many beans one must eat to get the same dose as one can get from a pill. ----- Bev |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Combining the info in Jenny's post and what you wrote I guess you should be
worried if your period get heavier or if you get spotting. What you said is about frequency - this I know not what to say. Phytoestrogens appear in all sorts of food anyway, not just soy. The 5 year experiment didn't say how much phytoestrogens they were feeding the women. They didn't say whether the 4% is significant and at what level of significance plus the sample is quite small (fewer than 300 people completed the test). Sometimes I really don't know whether I can find anything to do to improve my health after reading reports like that. Reading your post sparked my interest again on what the pros and cons of eating soy products, esp in the form of isolate. So I looked around a bit and so far I have found nothing that provide quantified details. For example I don't know how much phytoestrogens is carried in 100g of raw dried soya beans. The reports that are against eating soy say nothing about the quantity of soy that one must consumes to get into troubles. I apologise for not of very much use in here. Bev-Ann wrote: I'm the OP and at the time I posted the question I didn't know what different types of soy products there are available. I was asking because I have started eating black soy beans 3 to 5 times a week and use a combination of soy protein isolate and soy flour as a replacement for wheat flour in baking. I do eat the Atkins cold cereals on the weekends, but those are the only frankenfoods I buy containing soy. I don't eat tofu or use soy sauce. It's been 4 and a half months since I started LC and using soy in these forms. My periods have become more frequent (every 3 weeks) but my doctor says that can happen on any diet where you lose weight quickly and the addition of the small amount of soy such as I'm consuming is likely coincidental. He said my periods should regulate themselves again in another month or 2. |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Combining the info in Jenny's post and what you wrote I guess you should be
worried if your period get heavier or if you get spotting. What you said is about frequency - this I know not what to say. Phytoestrogens appear in all sorts of food anyway, not just soy. The 5 year experiment didn't say how much phytoestrogens they were feeding the women. They didn't say whether the 4% is significant and at what level of significance plus the sample is quite small (fewer than 300 people completed the test). Sometimes I really don't know whether I can find anything to do to improve my health after reading reports like that. Reading your post sparked my interest again on what the pros and cons of eating soy products, esp in the form of isolate. So I looked around a bit and so far I have found nothing that provide quantified details. For example I don't know how much phytoestrogens is carried in 100g of raw dried soya beans. The reports that are against eating soy say nothing about the quantity of soy that one must consumes to get into troubles. I apologise for not of very much use in here. Bev-Ann wrote: I'm the OP and at the time I posted the question I didn't know what different types of soy products there are available. I was asking because I have started eating black soy beans 3 to 5 times a week and use a combination of soy protein isolate and soy flour as a replacement for wheat flour in baking. I do eat the Atkins cold cereals on the weekends, but those are the only frankenfoods I buy containing soy. I don't eat tofu or use soy sauce. It's been 4 and a half months since I started LC and using soy in these forms. My periods have become more frequent (every 3 weeks) but my doctor says that can happen on any diet where you lose weight quickly and the addition of the small amount of soy such as I'm consuming is likely coincidental. He said my periods should regulate themselves again in another month or 2. |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Combining the info in Jenny's post and what you wrote I guess you should be
worried if your period get heavier or if you get spotting. What you said is about frequency - this I know not what to say. Phytoestrogens appear in all sorts of food anyway, not just soy. The 5 year experiment didn't say how much phytoestrogens they were feeding the women. They didn't say whether the 4% is significant and at what level of significance plus the sample is quite small (fewer than 300 people completed the test). Sometimes I really don't know whether I can find anything to do to improve my health after reading reports like that. Reading your post sparked my interest again on what the pros and cons of eating soy products, esp in the form of isolate. So I looked around a bit and so far I have found nothing that provide quantified details. For example I don't know how much phytoestrogens is carried in 100g of raw dried soya beans. The reports that are against eating soy say nothing about the quantity of soy that one must consumes to get into troubles. I apologise for not of very much use in here. Bev-Ann wrote: I'm the OP and at the time I posted the question I didn't know what different types of soy products there are available. I was asking because I have started eating black soy beans 3 to 5 times a week and use a combination of soy protein isolate and soy flour as a replacement for wheat flour in baking. I do eat the Atkins cold cereals on the weekends, but those are the only frankenfoods I buy containing soy. I don't eat tofu or use soy sauce. It's been 4 and a half months since I started LC and using soy in these forms. My periods have become more frequent (every 3 weeks) but my doctor says that can happen on any diet where you lose weight quickly and the addition of the small amount of soy such as I'm consuming is likely coincidental. He said my periods should regulate themselves again in another month or 2. |
What's the Problem with Soy?
My periods are lighter, just coming more frequently. No spotting in
between. They're also painless where I used to suffer from horrible cramps, so it's sort of a good thing. And it started the month before I added any soy at all to my diet, so I'm with my doctor in that it's likely coincidental. If they don't get back to normal frequency within the next couple of months, I'll talk to a gyno doctor about it. on Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:31:39 +0100, Ada Ma wrote: Combining the info in Jenny's post and what you wrote I guess you should be worried if your period get heavier or if you get spotting. What you said is about frequency - this I know not what to say. Phytoestrogens appear in all sorts of food anyway, not just soy. The 5 year experiment didn't say how much phytoestrogens they were feeding the women. They didn't say whether the 4% is significant and at what level of significance plus the sample is quite small (fewer than 300 people completed the test). Sometimes I really don't know whether I can find anything to do to improve my health after reading reports like that. Reading your post sparked my interest again on what the pros and cons of eating soy products, esp in the form of isolate. So I looked around a bit and so far I have found nothing that provide quantified details. For example I don't know how much phytoestrogens is carried in 100g of raw dried soya beans. The reports that are against eating soy say nothing about the quantity of soy that one must consumes to get into troubles. I apologise for not of very much use in here. ----- Bev |
What's the Problem with Soy?
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:41:31 GMT, Bev-Ann wrote:
My periods are lighter, just coming more frequently. Thank you for calling them periods. That TOM thing drives me nuts. G Carol -- Fasting BG: 139 Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004 Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001 |
What's the Problem with Soy?
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:41:31 GMT, Bev-Ann wrote:
My periods are lighter, just coming more frequently. Thank you for calling them periods. That TOM thing drives me nuts. G Carol -- Fasting BG: 139 Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004 Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001 |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Thank you for calling them periods. That TOM thing drives me nuts. G
Carol Me too. Haha Tom 210/180/180 |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Thank you for calling them periods. That TOM thing drives me nuts. G
Carol Me too. Haha Tom 210/180/180 |
What's the Problem with Soy?
Thank you for calling them periods. That TOM thing drives me nuts. G
Carol Me too. Haha Tom 210/180/180 |
What's the Problem with Soy?
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:44:34 GMT, "Tom" wrote:
Thank you for calling them periods. That TOM thing drives me nuts. G Carol Me too. Haha Tom 210/180/180 ROFLMAO! I'll bet it drives you right out of your mind!! Carol -- Fasting BG: 139 Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004 Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001 |
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