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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 04:32:40 -0400, Sleepyman wrote:

If I upset you so much, for not being a member of the local extremist
cult, please do add me to your list. You will miss me though! BTW
Peter says he plonked me already. He still seems to reply to my posts
though. Oh ya, if you would like, I can ratchet up the obnoxious
level.

Any idiot can ratchet up the obnoxiousness. Add your flung poo to the
endless pool of poo flinging of morons with internet connections
worldwide. Do you think anyone will take you seriously that way? If
so, you've got another think coming.

However, if you really want to impress people, make them listen to
your point of view. You hate the Atkins diet, tell me why. State it
rationally, back it up with objective facts, debunk with real data and
I will listen (can't promise anyone else will, but you'll have my
ear). I won't promise not to rebut with my own set of facts, or
counter your debunk with one of my own, but I will listen. I expect
you to do the same.

From your previous posts, I would not have guessed that you do any
style of low carb, and are against all versions of it, hence my
comment in the first place. Frankly, you haven't made a very good
first impression, and I don't much patience for people who have an
exceptionally high noise to signal ratio. So far your noise ratio has
been awfully high.

If you are really are low carbing, great! By all means, hail, and
well met. Welcome to alt.support.diet.low-carb. There are some very
clever, and inventive cooks here, you can pick up some good recipes.
You may have something to say about your experience that will be
valuable to other diabetics. You may learn from them, too. You don't
agree with me on low carb style. So what? You won't find me arguing
with you over what you do, and I hope the reverse will be true. (If
not, then who's the extremist?) I don't care what you do, if it
works. As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason to be infighting
about low carb diets, they're all pretty similiar. Just don't bring
up that wacko blood type/diet type theory. ;-)

As for me, I'm a firm believer in not becoming diabetic (runs in the
family), and in losing weight until I reach a reasonalbe weight for my
height. Atkins is my best bet for that, for now. If there comes a
day when my bloodwork goes haywire, then my doctor and I will move on
to something else. Right now that day is not here, so I'm not going
to worry about it. If that makes me a cultist, then you've never met
anyone in a real cult.

Karen Rodgers

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Carmen wrote:
| This is what Normie wrote:
| On 10-Apr-2004, wrote:
|
|| I went to the local grocery store yesterday, right inside the front
|| doors was a huge banner that said something about Atkins diet
|| supplies. Instead of shopping as I had inteneded, I immediately
|| walked up to the customer service counter. I asked to speak to a
|| manager. When he arrived, I told him that I have been a customer
|| for many years, and I will not return to this store again. When he
|| asked why, I pointed to that banner. I told him exactly how I feel
|| about
|| Atkins, his diet, and his cult. I told him that if he is
|| advertising a diet that the AMA and most doctors believe is
|| dangerous to ones
|| health, causing clogged arteries, heart attacks, and mental health
|| problems. I went on to tell him that he is not looking out for the
|| health of his customers, by advertising the Atkins diet, but instead
|| is selling out to greed. I further told him that he will be
|| receiving this in writing, and so will his boss at the top of the
|| company
|| chain. And just to make my point real clear, I whipped out a few
|| 20's from
|| my wallet, and said "I had intended to spend these here, instead
|| I'll
|| spend them at _______ (other local grocery). Then I walked out the
|| store.
|
| Translation:
| "The other day I walked into a grocery store that I'd been frequenting
| for years. The presence of an advertising banner for Atkins' products
| brought a haze of red across my eyes and I began to froth at the
| mouth. I went up to the customer service desk and began to rant
| incoherently about Atkins, cults, the FBI, aliens and mind control
| chemicals placed in Girl Scout cookies across the country by the
| Rosicrucians. The manager backed away, smiled nervously and assured
| me that my concerns would be taken into consideration. By this time a
| crowd of bag boys had gathered and a brief flash of common sense
| caused me to realize that several of them were roughly the size of NFL
| linebackers so I'd better run. I got away by pushing an elderly woman
| into a crowd of children. Whew."
|
| Translation services brought to you free of charge by Carmen. G

LMAO!

By the way I manage a business where cutomer service is everything (a
hotel); we do all we can to please our guests. The hotel I manage is a
rather upscale brand, and we maintain certain brand standards.
Occassionally someone will come in who is obviously not in the right hotel
for their needs. If they cannot be satisfied with the product that pleases
99.9999% of our customers, sometimes we suggest that they might be happier
at the Best Value Inn across the street.

I bet that they threw a party at that grocery store after Normie was out the
door, and sang a nice loud chorus of "Thank God And Greyhound You're Gone!"
Why would they worry about his $20 when for every dollar bill he didn't
spend, ten more were spent by those attracted by the Atkins product sign?

The store can get new customers, but Normie will always be an asshole.
Who's the winner, and who's the loser?

Peter
270/223/180
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

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wrote in message
...

However, go to this website one more time..........
http://www.atkinsdietalert.org/

Read it over and over for 24 hours or more. Listen to the words of
Neal D. Barnard, M.D.
President, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine


You're using the PCRM as a reference?

Now that's amazing.

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wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 11:32:48 -0700, Karen Rodgers
wrote:

However, if you really want to impress people, make them listen to
your point of view. You hate the Atkins diet, tell me why. State it
rationally, back it up with objective facts, debunk with real data and
I will listen (can't promise anyone else will, but you'll have my
ear). I won't promise not to rebut with my own set of facts, or
counter your debunk with one of my own, but I will listen. I expect
you to do the same.

You people are a complete joke.
How much more proof do you want? I posted enough to make a normal
person run like hell, and even start a nationwide Atkins book burning.

Only for the stupid ones like yourself.

Nothing will convince you people. It's part of the mental illness
that you developed when you went on the diet.

However, go to this website one more time..........
http://www.atkinsdietalert.org/

QUACK ALERT!

Read it over and over for 24 hours or more. Listen to the words of
Neal D. Barnard, M.D.
President, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

Yes refute our "quack" doctor with your Quack Doctor.
The fact that the American Medical Association is against Neal Barnard
doesn't interfere with your quest against Atkins for setting your
ex-wife free from you.

You worship a dead doctor who died from his own diet.
ANd with nothing worth saying he just repeats himself like a toy. Pull
his chain. "Atkins is a quack"

This time worship a living one who knows what he's saying and isn't
out to kill you for the sake of his own wealth.
Do you ever wonder if God hates you for making your life so miserable?

DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/304/Apr-299/200
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
OWL-50 carbs/day (CCLL=?)

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burbled across the ether:
This time worship a living one who knows what he's saying and isn't
out to kill you for the sake of his own wealth.

No, for the sake of his pride. I don't worship doctors. They're all
human. Unlike you.

Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine isn't a committee, nor is
it made up of only nor even primarily physicians, nor is is responsible
medicine-- it's an official sounding front for PETA/vegans. Since
you're so fond of authority here's one you might listen to--the AMA says
they're quacks.

QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK.

--
revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June
2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please
I'm all for moderation. Moderation in everything, all the time. But I
try not to take it to an extreme. Keith F. Lynch

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Priscilla Ballou wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

I went to the local grocery store yesterday, right inside the front
doors was a huge banner that said something about Atkins diet
supplies. Instead of shopping as I had inteneded, I immediately
walked up to the customer service counter. I asked to speak to a
manager. When he arrived, I told him that I have been a customer for
many years, and I will not return to this store again. When he asked
why, I pointed to that banner. I told him exactly how I feel about
Atkins, his diet, and his cult. I told him that if he is advertising
a diet that the AMA and most doctors believe is dangerous to ones
health, causing clogged arteries, heart attacks, and mental health
problems. I went on to tell him that he is not looking out for the
health of his customers, by advertising the Atkins diet, but instead
is selling out to greed. I further told him that he will be receiving
this in writing, and so will his boss at the top of the company chain.
And just to make my point real clear, I whipped out a few 20's from my
wallet, and said "I had intended to spend these here, instead I'll
spend them at _______ (other local grocery). Then I walked out the
store.

Ah, so now someone else knows you're a nut.

Priscilla, come on, I don't think he could keep that a secret from
very many people. I bet even the local postal worker thinks this one's
a nutjob.

DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/304/Apr-299/200
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
OWL-50 carbs/day (CCLL=?)

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I can't believe there are still people out here bashing the Atkins way
of life. Yes, it may not be for everyone. But that would be your own
MEDICAL condition that would make it not for you. I have seen to many
people and have talked to my three different doctors about Atkins. I
have lost 35 pounds and my 13 year old son has lost 28 pounds. We have
consulted our doctors every step of the way. If you do not have the
will power or if you have not reached the "this is enough" stage in
your own weight struggle that is your demon, but lay off of the people
who have made changes, responsible changes in their own life. I am
proud to say that I am on atkins, my son is on atkins and my other
tall and skinny son is also eating what we eat and all of us are
healthier, happier and we look marvelous!!!


You sound alot like me. I too have a son that is tall and skinny. He now eats
like the rest of us. The other boys too have lost some weight.

It is a great and marvelous feeling to make so many great changes!

:)

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JC Der Koenig wrote:
| wrote in message
| ...
||
|| However, go to this website one more time..........
|| http://www.atkinsdietalert.org/
||
|| Read it over and over for 24 hours or more. Listen to the words of
|| Neal D. Barnard, M.D.
|| President, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine
||
|
| You're using the PCRM as a reference?
|
| Now that's amazing.


Using the PCRM as his source would be like The KKK quoting David Duke as
proof that racism is a valid social system ....

--
Peter
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:09:36 -0500,
wrote:

You people are a complete joke.
How much more proof do you want? I posted enough to make a normal
person run like hell, and even start a nationwide Atkins book burning.

Oh, you posted enough to make a normal person run like hell, all
right, as far away from you as possible. I had a small spark of
sympathy when you posted about your wife. But its evaporated like
water on a hot summer sidewalk.

However, go to this website one more time..........
http://www.atkinsdietalert.org/

Read it over and over for 24 hours or more. Listen to the words of
Neal D. Barnard, M.D.
President, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

One cite from a PETA fanatic? Just one cite from a man with an
obvious agenda? Is that all you've got!?! You'll have to do a whole
lot better than that, bucko.

You worship a dead doctor who died from his own diet.

Never have, never will. Doctors are only human beings, some have
better theories than others, but they're just people.

This time worship a living one who knows what he's saying and isn't
out to kill you for the sake of his own wealth.

I don't worship a dead doctor, and I certainly won't worship a living
one, let alone a living one with rectal cranial inversion.

Karen Rodgers

**********
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**********