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Carmen August 31st, 2004 02:09 PM

Metabolism - a glimpse of it
 
Hello folks,
Life's been a bit busy lately, so yesterday I finally got a chance to
sit down and catch up on ASDLC a bit. One thing that struck me is the
abundance of "Nutrient/Factor X is the key!" "No, nutrient/factor Y
is!" sort of arguments vis-a-vis metabolism.

One benefit to being pre-med is that my education so far allows me to
recognize I don't know even 1% of the metabolic pathways and how they
work. Metabolism is a vast network of checks and balances. Although
there are some basic principles that can be understood, the overall
process is simply too overwhelming for even a very highly educated and
intelligent person to fully assimilate - never mind us.

In order to give those who want it some small sense of how complex the
metabolic networks in the human body are - and how inextricably
they're intertwined - I've found a link that may help. In many
college biology classrooms there is a huge chart that is covered with
tiny little arrows and text that represents human metabolic processes.
This is a highly simplified version of the same thing. If you click
on any of the text labels you'll be taken to yet another complex chart
that represents the system you click on.

I hope this helps.

http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=mim&mapno=01100

Take care,
Carmen

S t a c i August 31st, 2004 02:24 PM

Thanks, Carmen - now I get it!

(honk)
S t a c i

"Carmen" wrote in message
...
Hello folks,
Life's been a bit busy lately, so yesterday I finally got a chance to
sit down and catch up on ASDLC a bit. One thing that struck me is the
abundance of "Nutrient/Factor X is the key!" "No, nutrient/factor Y
is!" sort of arguments vis-a-vis metabolism.

One benefit to being pre-med is that my education so far allows me to
recognize I don't know even 1% of the metabolic pathways and how they
work. Metabolism is a vast network of checks and balances. Although
there are some basic principles that can be understood, the overall
process is simply too overwhelming for even a very highly educated and
intelligent person to fully assimilate - never mind us.

In order to give those who want it some small sense of how complex the
metabolic networks in the human body are - and how inextricably
they're intertwined - I've found a link that may help. In many
college biology classrooms there is a huge chart that is covered with
tiny little arrows and text that represents human metabolic processes.
This is a highly simplified version of the same thing. If you click
on any of the text labels you'll be taken to yet another complex chart
that represents the system you click on.

I hope this helps.

http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=mim&mapno=01100

Take care,
Carmen




jamie August 31st, 2004 02:52 PM

Carmen wrote:

http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=mim&mapno=01100


Nice. I like the way you can zoom in categorically.
Thanks.

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jbuch September 1st, 2004 01:29 AM

Carmen wrote:


In order to give those who want it some small sense of how complex the
metabolic networks in the human body are - and how inextricably
they're intertwined - I've found a link that may help. In many
college biology classrooms there is a huge chart that is covered with
tiny little arrows and text that represents human metabolic processes.
This is a highly simplified version of the same thing. If you click
on any of the text labels you'll be taken to yet another complex chart
that represents the system you click on.

I hope this helps.

http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=mim&mapno=01100

Take care,
Carmen


This begins to explain in great detail how little I know, and how much
researchers have been able to uncover in ways that I do not understand.

Thanks for the opportunity to get a glimpse.

No wonder the average older MD avoids scientific diet technology.

HE too is probably completely swamped by the technical and scientific
knowledge and has to "fake it" with his MD authority stance.

Jim


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RRzVRR September 1st, 2004 11:01 AM

Carmen wrote:

I hope this helps.

http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=mim&mapno=01100


Thanks Carmen, this is great. I need things mapped out like this
to "get it".

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Carmen September 1st, 2004 12:12 PM

Hi again,
I found a 'net copy of the chart I talked about seeing in many of my
bio classrooms. W00T! It gives the best idea of the complexity of
human metabolic processes. It's clickable too, so you can zoom in and
follow pathways.

http://www.expasy.org/cgi-bin/show_thumbnails.pl

Enjoy!

Take care,
Carmen

billydee September 1st, 2004 11:18 PM

"Carmen" wrote in message ...
Hi again,
I found a 'net copy of the chart I talked about seeing in many of my
bio classrooms. W00T! It gives the best idea of the complexity of
human metabolic processes. It's clickable too, so you can zoom in and
follow pathways.

http://www.expasy.org/cgi-bin/show_thumbnails.pl

Enjoy!

Take care,
Carmen


that is too cool

billydee September 1st, 2004 11:18 PM

"Carmen" wrote in message ...
Hi again,
I found a 'net copy of the chart I talked about seeing in many of my
bio classrooms. W00T! It gives the best idea of the complexity of
human metabolic processes. It's clickable too, so you can zoom in and
follow pathways.

http://www.expasy.org/cgi-bin/show_thumbnails.pl

Enjoy!

Take care,
Carmen


that is too cool

Carmen September 1st, 2004 11:58 PM

Hi,
On 1-Sep-2004, (billydee) wrote:

"Carmen" wrote in message
...
Hi again,
I found a 'net copy of the chart I talked about seeing in many of
my bio classrooms. W00T! It gives the best idea of the
complexity
of human metabolic processes. It's clickable too, so you can zoom
in
and follow pathways.

http://www.expasy.org/cgi-bin/show_thumbnails.pl

Enjoy!

Take care,
Carmen


that is too cool


I'm not sure if you really mean that, but for a geek like me it really
*is* cool. That's just the stuff they've mapped out too. Polyols
(sugar alcohols) are still mostly a mystery so stuff like that isn't
even on there. It's a wonder human beings function at all. ;-)

Take care,
Carmen

Carmen September 1st, 2004 11:58 PM

Hi,
On 1-Sep-2004, (billydee) wrote:

"Carmen" wrote in message
...
Hi again,
I found a 'net copy of the chart I talked about seeing in many of
my bio classrooms. W00T! It gives the best idea of the
complexity
of human metabolic processes. It's clickable too, so you can zoom
in
and follow pathways.

http://www.expasy.org/cgi-bin/show_thumbnails.pl

Enjoy!

Take care,
Carmen


that is too cool


I'm not sure if you really mean that, but for a geek like me it really
*is* cool. That's just the stuff they've mapped out too. Polyols
(sugar alcohols) are still mostly a mystery so stuff like that isn't
even on there. It's a wonder human beings function at all. ;-)

Take care,
Carmen


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