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Jarkat2002 August 21st, 2004 12:35 AM

Couch-bound woman's death raises questions
 
I can't believe Vivian Kendricks has the nerve to claim that Gayle was a
grown woman who could maker her own decisions. If you choose to spend every
second of your life soaking in your own feces, only a moron would claim that
you are capable of making your own decisions. -Dave


amen
~Kat

"help is on the way"
~John Kerry

Lictor August 26th, 2004 02:50 PM

"Gordon Burditt" wrote in message
...
Is that true even if you have no responsibility to care for this person?
And no ability to interfere?


He had the moral responsability we all take when we chose to live with
someone.
Moreover, I live in a country where failure to provide help to anyone in
danger is a criminal offense, unless providing that help would have put
yourself in danger or been beyond your possibilities. If I had been a
neighbourgh, and had known of her condition, and had done nothing, I would
have deserved jailed from a strictly legal point of view. As a member of a
community, you do have responsabilities towards the other members that you
sign in when you implicitely accept the social contract.

If I tell you and the whole newsgroup that there are starving orphans
in Africa, and you do nothing about it, and one of them dies, is
anyone who reads the newsgroup guilty of criminally negligent homicide?


They're not part of our community and we have not contracted any duty
towards them, and we have no easy mean to help them, so no, that would not
be an homicide. But not doing anything at all to help them is indeed morally
wrong. If you knowingly vote in politicians who aggravated the problems, you
are fully responsible. Just like the Germans who supported Hitler and the
French who followed the Vichy government and didn't revolt are guilty of the
Holocaust.



Lictor August 26th, 2004 02:50 PM

"Gordon Burditt" wrote in message
...
Is that true even if you have no responsibility to care for this person?
And no ability to interfere?


He had the moral responsability we all take when we chose to live with
someone.
Moreover, I live in a country where failure to provide help to anyone in
danger is a criminal offense, unless providing that help would have put
yourself in danger or been beyond your possibilities. If I had been a
neighbourgh, and had known of her condition, and had done nothing, I would
have deserved jailed from a strictly legal point of view. As a member of a
community, you do have responsabilities towards the other members that you
sign in when you implicitely accept the social contract.

If I tell you and the whole newsgroup that there are starving orphans
in Africa, and you do nothing about it, and one of them dies, is
anyone who reads the newsgroup guilty of criminally negligent homicide?


They're not part of our community and we have not contracted any duty
towards them, and we have no easy mean to help them, so no, that would not
be an homicide. But not doing anything at all to help them is indeed morally
wrong. If you knowingly vote in politicians who aggravated the problems, you
are fully responsible. Just like the Germans who supported Hitler and the
French who followed the Vichy government and didn't revolt are guilty of the
Holocaust.




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