NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
 

Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
 

Okay, I give up, you win. I am very impressed.

Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think she
meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that? I
have wondered that a lot myself. This week, at 157 and thereabouts, I find
that I totally don't want to get much more off. I don't feel quite as well
as I do at 160. But I want to stay under 160. I may be done, right here.
I will get my NYNY goal this week unless some really bizarre thing happens.

So you win. Not going there most likely. (unless you gain of course)


"Fred" wrote in message
...
Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
 

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:36:20 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Okay, I give up, you win. I am very impressed.

I am not sure what I did this past week and since I do not Journal
anymore other than eating the same basic stuff, there is nothing to
check against. I did not get as much exercise but maybe raking up and
wheelbarrowing lots and lots of leaves. Or maybe my portions are
actually smaller than I perceive, other than breakfast where I know I
am doing more than one cup of cereal.

Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think she
meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that?

Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for
"safety" I might want to move it down just a bit further so that I
draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one - like 164, oh,
well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155
should be just a rough idea and hovering now would be fine. Up a
pound down a pound. I know the rules. I occasionally break the rules
but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing a
Costco Fruitcake today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece
I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy
bears last night and these are not tiny bags.

have wondered that a lot myself. This week, at 157 and thereabouts, I find
that I totally don't want to get much more off. I don't feel quite as well
as I do at 160. But I want to stay under 160. I may be done, right here.
I will get my NYNY goal this week unless some really bizarre thing happens.

You know I just had to look to see what the goal was. I was not sure
it was 160 or 155. So I will call a truce, too. Life fireworks -
safe and sane.

So you win. Not going there most likely. (unless you gain of course)

I will gain, of course. Xmas parties are coming up. And last night I
was asked to make a gourmet, decadent dessert like my Christmas log
(what a pain that one always is!!!) I'm still thinking of the sweet
potato cheesecake but maybe frosting it with a chocolate glaze.

Fred

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
 

Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think
she
meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that?

Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for
"safety" I might want to move it down just a bit further so that I
draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one - like 164, oh,
well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155
should be just a rough idea and hovering now would be fine. Up a
pound down a pound. I know the rules. I occasionally break the rules
but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing a
Costco Fruitcake today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece
I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy
bears last night and these are not tiny bags.


Just this part, clipped the rest. I can see myself not ever being "done"
just from the terror of going the other way. I am going to set my "back to
journalin" number at 160, and let it be. I too have not been journaling
this past week and I am at a new low. I think this just takes daily weigh
ins, and a willingness to go back on program when the one sixes show, and
hanging around here to keep the focus. I really have a hard time believing
this. I was somewhere yesterday and someone I did not know well said
something that caused me to say something about being fat :) They looked at
me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh
I forgot. I'm not.

NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
 

W O W !!!!

Since I still can't imagine actually reaching goal, I'm even less able
to imagine your quandary about whether you hava a sufficient cushion.
I think I like Lesanne's idea though (elsewhere in this thread) about
picking a weight equivalent to a line drawn in the sand.

Prairie Roots

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:12:05 -0800, Fred
wrote:

Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
 

I think that I'm at that "line drawn in the sand" place now.

Let me put it this way - I'm not trying for anorexia. And I am eating
and appear to have sufficient energy for my activities. I restocked
the dates and mango at Costco along with picking up a fruit cake (too
bad they can't go more natural on their baked offerings) And while
there is still a ripple around the middle, at my age it may be skin.

I know my secretary (who is a WW leader) is very big on people getting
to their goal weight and really trying to MAINTAIN. And I would think
that my floating up a bit and down a bit is there.

And I believe with your attitude, you will reach goal and Lifetime.

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:50:58 -0600, Prairie Roots
wrote:

W O W !!!!

Since I still can't imagine actually reaching goal, I'm even less able
to imagine your quandary about whether you hava a sufficient cushion.
I think I like Lesanne's idea though (elsewhere in this thread) about
picking a weight equivalent to a line drawn in the sand.

Prairie Roots

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:12:05 -0800, Fred
wrote:

Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
 

That is well put. I have been UP there now twice. So I know what's
possible. But I also know I have a lot more tools as far as food
consumption. Now, attitude, mood, spirit, whatever might have more
power behind it then just the tools. So it will need constant
monitoring and vigilance.

I wish us all the best of luck and discipline.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:32:12 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:


Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think
she
meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that?

Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for
"safety" I might want to move it down just a bit further so that I
draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one - like 164, oh,
well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155
should be just a rough idea and hovering now would be fine. Up a
pound down a pound. I know the rules. I occasionally break the rules
but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing a
Costco Fruitcake today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece
I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy
bears last night and these are not tiny bags.


Just this part, clipped the rest. I can see myself not ever being "done"
just from the terror of going the other way. I am going to set my "back to
journalin" number at 160, and let it be. I too have not been journaling
this past week and I am at a new low. I think this just takes daily weigh
ins, and a willingness to go back on program when the one sixes show, and
hanging around here to keep the focus. I really have a hard time believing
this. I was somewhere yesterday and someone I did not know well said
something that caused me to say something about being fat :) They looked at
me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh
I forgot. I'm not.

NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
 

Thanks for the vote of confidence. This week I'm not sure I agree.
So I'll rely on your confidence until I regain some of my own.

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:22:37 -0800, Fred
wrote:

And I believe with your attitude, you will reach goal and Lifetime.

Prairie Roots
232/170.8/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
 

Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is
getting bigger, soon you'll be able to really bundle up when at meetings.
Congratulations!!

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
 

Yesterday we went out to lunch, which we frequently do when babysitting DGD,
since then the cafeteria she loves has to clean up the mess. My Ma loves
fried anything. So do I, but you know how often I eat that sort of thing
(same as any of us). We bought the lunch special plate of chicken fried
chicken breast. There is not any skin, but there is a nice crunchy fried
whatever all over it. I also got a vegetable plate, which has 3 veggies.
I got mac and cheese (guess who loves that) canned corn (ditto) and green
beans. Then when we got to table, I cut the chicken into 3 pieces, put
about 2 T of mac and cheese, 2 T of corn, all the green beans and a third of
the chicken on my plate. I really figured I would be up a pound this
morning, but still nice ole 157. I think this whole thing is about portion
control with the high calorie/fat/sugar items, and liberal servings of 0
point items for satiety and crunch (the chew factor) and this becomes not so
hard. Are you also finding maintenance not as difficult as it was at first?
I am! I hope that lasts!

"Fred" wrote in message
...
That is well put. I have been UP there now twice. So I know what's
possible. But I also know I have a lot more tools as far as food
consumption. Now, attitude, mood, spirit, whatever might have more
power behind it then just the tools. So it will need constant
monitoring and vigilance.

I wish us all the best of luck and discipline.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:32:12 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:


Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you
think
she
meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that?

Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for
"safety" I might want to move it down just a bit further so that I
draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one - like 164, oh,
well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155
should be just a rough idea and hovering now would be fine. Up a
pound down a pound. I know the rules. I occasionally break the rules
but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing a
Costco Fruitcake today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece
I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy
bears last night and these are not tiny bags.


Just this part, clipped the rest. I can see myself not ever being "done"
just from the terror of going the other way. I am going to set my "back
to
journalin" number at 160, and let it be. I too have not been journaling
this past week and I am at a new low. I think this just takes daily
weigh
ins, and a willingness to go back on program when the one sixes show, and
hanging around here to keep the focus. I really have a hard time
believing
this. I was somewhere yesterday and someone I did not know well said
something that caused me to say something about being fat :) They looked
at
me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh
I forgot. I'm not.