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Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"Caleb" wrote in message ups.com... This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Holy crap... |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote:
This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
Holy crap My thoughts exactly. ==8O |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"determined" wrote in message ... "Caleb" wrote in message ups.com... This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Holy crap... Is this the same guy who does this every year? Because then he stops and gains all the weight back and has to start over? |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"janice" wrote in message ... On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
Patricia Heil wrote: "determined" wrote in message ... "Caleb" wrote in message ups.com... This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Holy crap... Is this the same guy who does this every year? Because then he stops and gains all the weight back and has to start over? Yep! The same 100 day diet every year. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote:
"janice" wrote in message ... On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not easy. I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time -- hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc. Couple of points for people to remember: There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention. It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up. Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99 that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance beam" on Google.) Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres to your dietary goals -- is important. Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up metabolism) are not supported by current data. Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different folks. To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy. Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things. Yours, Caleb |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message ... On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not easy. I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time -- hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc. Couple of points for people to remember: There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention. It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up. Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99 that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance beam" on Google.) Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres to your dietary goals -- is important. Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up metabolism) are not supported by current data. Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different folks. To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy. Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things. But, Caleb, are you really losing weight the first 100 days of every year, and regaining it during the rest of the year? That sounds like yoyo dieting, and that isn't terribly good for you, is it? |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 2, 6:30 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message . .. On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not easy. I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time -- hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc. Couple of points for people to remember: There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention. It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up. Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99 that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance beam" on Google.) Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres to your dietary goals -- is important. Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up metabolism) are not supported by current data. Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different folks. To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy. Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things. But, Caleb, are you really losing weight the first 100 days of every year, and regaining it during the rest of the year? That sounds like yoyo dieting, and that isn't terribly good for you, is it? Since you ask seriously -- I don't think I've lost significant amounts of weight for about 2 years or perhaps more. So it seems to me about time to get in harness again. I remember attending a conference up in Seattle in the early 90s and the presenter (it was on weight and exercise) noted how hugely people's diets varied calorically. Great big swings, with some days being several thousand and the next day being twice that. Eating consistently and healthily turns out to be quite difficult for most Americans, especially in this culture that makes snacks, large portions, a variety of foods, etc., more available. As to so called "yo-yo" dieting, one of the myths I guess I'd like to put to rest is that it's difficult to lose weight if one has done it before. There has been (certainly for me, and also the diet literature shows it as well) no increased difficulty in losing weight because I had done it before. There have been a variety of studies on weight- cycling and there appears to be no clear consensus of the downside. However, there is fairly clear agreement on what the downside of remaining overweight and out of shape is. (Also, should there be a doorman at WW who will not let you enter if you have several times regained the weight you lost? If that happened, I think not too many people who had a genuine weight problem would be permitted in.) Also, given a choice between losing some weight or getting some exercise (if one had to pick one or the other), some studies indicate that losing weight is probably more important. Weight loss is the difference between life or death for many people. And it sure can make a huge difference emotionally, socially, vocationally, etc. Mondale said in his run against Reagan: "It's not what we don't know that's going to get us. It's what we know that just ain't so." (I think he was quoting Will Rogers but am not sure.) And within the world of dieting, there are many statements made with the feel of utter certainty that turn out in the long run to be dubious. Actually, I don't agree with his politics but I think Michael Fumento's "Fat of the Land" is a pretty good look at some of the important variables in dieting. I'm pretty happy with the weight loss program I'm on now. Doesn't cost me anything. I feel comfortable knowing that I'm improving my physical status, that my clothes are getting looser, that I'll be able to carry a backpack longer distances, etc. I sure don't gnash my teeth and dwell on my failing. Life is short -- or, as my daughter once said, it's not that life is short -- it's that death is long. I'd rather be healthy than not. And if what I'm doing helps motivate others to lose weight in their own way, then that's to the good. Anyway, thanks for asking! I sure hope your program is going well! What kind of program are you on? Yours, Caleb |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote:
This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, "
wrote: On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the BS. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"Caleb" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 2, 6:30 pm, "teachrmama" wrote: "Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message . .. On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not easy. I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time -- hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc. Couple of points for people to remember: There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention. It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up. Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99 that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance beam" on Google.) Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres to your dietary goals -- is important. Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up metabolism) are not supported by current data. Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different folks. To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy. Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things. But, Caleb, are you really losing weight the first 100 days of every year, and regaining it during the rest of the year? That sounds like yoyo dieting, and that isn't terribly good for you, is it? Since you ask seriously -- I don't think I've lost significant amounts of weight for about 2 years or perhaps more. So it seems to me about time to get in harness again. I remember attending a conference up in Seattle in the early 90s and the presenter (it was on weight and exercise) noted how hugely people's diets varied calorically. Great big swings, with some days being several thousand and the next day being twice that. Eating consistently and healthily turns out to be quite difficult for most Americans, especially in this culture that makes snacks, large portions, a variety of foods, etc., more available. As to so called "yo-yo" dieting, one of the myths I guess I'd like to put to rest is that it's difficult to lose weight if one has done it before. There has been (certainly for me, and also the diet literature shows it as well) no increased difficulty in losing weight because I had done it before. There have been a variety of studies on weight- cycling and there appears to be no clear consensus of the downside. However, there is fairly clear agreement on what the downside of remaining overweight and out of shape is. (Also, should there be a doorman at WW who will not let you enter if you have several times regained the weight you lost? If that happened, I think not too many people who had a genuine weight problem would be permitted in.) Also, given a choice between losing some weight or getting some exercise (if one had to pick one or the other), some studies indicate that losing weight is probably more important. Weight loss is the difference between life or death for many people. And it sure can make a huge difference emotionally, socially, vocationally, etc. Mondale said in his run against Reagan: "It's not what we don't know that's going to get us. It's what we know that just ain't so." (I think he was quoting Will Rogers but am not sure.) And within the world of dieting, there are many statements made with the feel of utter certainty that turn out in the long run to be dubious. Actually, I don't agree with his politics but I think Michael Fumento's "Fat of the Land" is a pretty good look at some of the important variables in dieting. I'm pretty happy with the weight loss program I'm on now. Doesn't cost me anything. I feel comfortable knowing that I'm improving my physical status, that my clothes are getting looser, that I'll be able to carry a backpack longer distances, etc. I sure don't gnash my teeth and dwell on my failing. Life is short -- or, as my daughter once said, it's not that life is short -- it's that death is long. I'd rather be healthy than not. And if what I'm doing helps motivate others to lose weight in their own way, then that's to the good. Anyway, thanks for asking! I sure hope your program is going well! What kind of program are you on? Actually, I'm not on a "program." Last May 12 my doctor informed me that my blood pressure was at stroke level and that I would not live to see my children grow up if I did not get it under control--which included taking off some weight. I have lost 80 pounds since then with a combination of eating sensibly and eating the right foods--not a special program, but a new way of eating and way of life. I'm never going to go back to the way I ate before--or eat for the reasons I ate. It really is a new way of life. I also exercise--walk (rapidly, 4+ mph), go to Curves, and swim when the pool is open. I swam all summer, but the pool closed in October. I am waiting impatiently for it to reopen. The grocery store is 1/2 mile from my home, the bank and library are 1 mile, the drug stor a bit forther, and I walk to all of them whenever I can. I also ride my recumbent exercise cycle at home, and run in 5K races--I've placed 2nd in my age group twice! And I make time for ME. This is the hardest part. But I finally really did have to learn to say no. I figure I need to lose about 30 more pounds--although someone told me today that they didn't think I should lose any more weight. That was nice to hear. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message ... On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. How can you so cheerfully admit that you are back for the umpteenth time doing the exact same diet approach that you have done before, and obviously it hasn't been successful, or why would you be doing it again? Please keep your crap in alt.support.diet.low-calorie. At least that way it is contained. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 2, 11:27 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Caleb" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 2, 6:30 pm, "teachrmama" wrote: "Caleb" wrote in message groups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message . .. On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not easy. I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time -- hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc. Couple of points for people to remember: There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention. It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up. Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99 that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance beam" on Google.) Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres to your dietary goals -- is important. Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up metabolism) are not supported by current data. Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different folks. To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy. Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things. But, Caleb, are you really losing weight the first 100 days of every year, and regaining it during the rest of the year? That sounds like yoyo dieting, and that isn't terribly good for you, is it? Since you ask seriously -- I don't think I've lost significant amounts of weight for about 2 years or perhaps more. So it seems to me about time to get in harness again. I remember attending a conference up in Seattle in the early 90s and the presenter (it was on weight and exercise) noted how hugely people's diets varied calorically. Great big swings, with some days being several thousand and the next day being twice that. Eating consistently and healthily turns out to be quite difficult for most Americans, especially in this culture that makes snacks, large portions, a variety of foods, etc., more available. As to so called "yo-yo" dieting, one of the myths I guess I'd like to put to rest is that it's difficult to lose weight if one has done it before. There has been (certainly for me, and also the diet literature shows it as well) no increased difficulty in losing weight because I had done it before. There have been a variety of studies on weight- cycling and there appears to be no clear consensus of the downside. However, there is fairly clear agreement on what the downside of remaining overweight and out of shape is. (Also, should there be a doorman at WW who will not let you enter if you have several times regained the weight you lost? If that happened, I think not too many people who had a genuine weight problem would be permitted in.) Also, given a choice between losing some weight or getting some exercise (if one had to pick one or the other), some studies indicate that losing weight is probably more important. Weight loss is the difference between life or death for many people. And it sure can make a huge difference emotionally, socially, vocationally, etc. Mondale said in his run against Reagan: "It's not what we don't know that's going to get us. It's what we know that just ain't so." (I think he was quoting Will Rogers but am not sure.) And within the world of dieting, there are many statements made with the feel of utter certainty that turn out in the long run to be dubious. Actually, I don't agree with his politics but I think Michael Fumento's "Fat of the Land" is a pretty good look at some of the important variables in dieting. I'm pretty happy with the weight loss program I'm on now. Doesn't cost me anything. I feel comfortable knowing that I'm improving my physical status, that my clothes are getting looser, that I'll be able to carry a backpack longer distances, etc. I sure don't gnash my teeth and dwell on my failing. Life is short -- or, as my daughter once said, it's not that life is short -- it's that death is long. I'd rather be healthy than not. And if what I'm doing helps motivate others to lose weight in their own way, then that's to the good. Anyway, thanks for asking! I sure hope your program is going well! What kind of program are you on? Actually, I'm not on a "program." Last May 12 my doctor informed me that my blood pressure was at stroke level and that I would not live to see my children grow up if I did not get it under control--which included taking off some weight. I have lost 80 pounds since then with a combination of eating sensibly and eating the right foods--not a special program, but a new way of eating and way of life. I'm never going to go back to the way I ate before--or eat for the reasons I ate. It really is a new way of life. I also exercise--walk (rapidly, 4+ mph), go to Curves, and swim when the pool is open. I swam all summer, but the pool closed in October. I am waiting impatiently for it to reopen. The grocery store is 1/2 mile from my home, the bank and library are 1 mile, the drug stor a bit forther, and I walk to all of them whenever I can. I also ride my recumbent exercise cycle at home, and run in 5K races--I've placed 2nd in my age group twice! And I make time for ME. This is the hardest part. But I finally really did have to learn to say no. I figure I need to lose about 30 more pounds--although someone told me today that they didn't think I should lose any more weight. That was nice to hear. Teachrmama -- GREAT FOR YOU!!! Super impressive! Excellent progress! I'm sure all of your helath signs are positive! Yours truly, Caleb |
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On Feb 2, 11:27 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Caleb" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 2, 6:30 pm, "teachrmama" wrote: "Caleb" wrote in message groups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message . .. On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not easy. I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time -- hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc. Couple of points for people to remember: There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention. It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up. Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99 that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance beam" on Google.) Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres to your dietary goals -- is important. Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up metabolism) are not supported by current data. Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different folks. To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy. Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things. But, Caleb, are you really losing weight the first 100 days of every year, and regaining it during the rest of the year? That sounds like yoyo dieting, and that isn't terribly good for you, is it? Since you ask seriously -- I don't think I've lost significant amounts of weight for about 2 years or perhaps more. So it seems to me about time to get in harness again. I remember attending a conference up in Seattle in the early 90s and the presenter (it was on weight and exercise) noted how hugely people's diets varied calorically. Great big swings, with some days being several thousand and the next day being twice that. Eating consistently and healthily turns out to be quite difficult for most Americans, especially in this culture that makes snacks, large portions, a variety of foods, etc., more available. As to so called "yo-yo" dieting, one of the myths I guess I'd like to put to rest is that it's difficult to lose weight if one has done it before. There has been (certainly for me, and also the diet literature shows it as well) no increased difficulty in losing weight because I had done it before. There have been a variety of studies on weight- cycling and there appears to be no clear consensus of the downside. However, there is fairly clear agreement on what the downside of remaining overweight and out of shape is. (Also, should there be a doorman at WW who will not let you enter if you have several times regained the weight you lost? If that happened, I think not too many people who had a genuine weight problem would be permitted in.) Also, given a choice between losing some weight or getting some exercise (if one had to pick one or the other), some studies indicate that losing weight is probably more important. Weight loss is the difference between life or death for many people. And it sure can make a huge difference emotionally, socially, vocationally, etc. Mondale said in his run against Reagan: "It's not what we don't know that's going to get us. It's what we know that just ain't so." (I think he was quoting Will Rogers but am not sure.) And within the world of dieting, there are many statements made with the feel of utter certainty that turn out in the long run to be dubious. Actually, I don't agree with his politics but I think Michael Fumento's "Fat of the Land" is a pretty good look at some of the important variables in dieting. I'm pretty happy with the weight loss program I'm on now. Doesn't cost me anything. I feel comfortable knowing that I'm improving my physical status, that my clothes are getting looser, that I'll be able to carry a backpack longer distances, etc. I sure don't gnash my teeth and dwell on my failing. Life is short -- or, as my daughter once said, it's not that life is short -- it's that death is long. I'd rather be healthy than not. And if what I'm doing helps motivate others to lose weight in their own way, then that's to the good. Anyway, thanks for asking! I sure hope your program is going well! What kind of program are you on? Actually, I'm not on a "program." Last May 12 my doctor informed me that my blood pressure was at stroke level and that I would not live to see my children grow up if I did not get it under control--which included taking off some weight. I have lost 80 pounds since then with a combination of eating sensibly and eating the right foods--not a special program, but a new way of eating and way of life. I'm never going to go back to the way I ate before--or eat for the reasons I ate. It really is a new way of life. I also exercise--walk (rapidly, 4+ mph), go to Curves, and swim when the pool is open. I swam all summer, but the pool closed in October. I am waiting impatiently for it to reopen. The grocery store is 1/2 mile from my home, the bank and library are 1 mile, the drug stor a bit forther, and I walk to all of them whenever I can. I also ride my recumbent exercise cycle at home, and run in 5K races--I've placed 2nd in my age group twice! And I make time for ME. This is the hardest part. But I finally really did have to learn to say no. I figure I need to lose about 30 more pounds--although someone told me today that they didn't think I should lose any more weight. That was nice to hear. Mike -- I guess it's been about 1200 to 1500 calories. I have days of slightly less and days of somewhat more. The following chart has been motivational to me. Not only does it suggest that I go for a lower calorie intake, it also shows that even if I take in significantly more calories than I am now doing, I will still lose a substantial amount of weight over time. Here it is, and it's based on being male (so about 13 calories per pound of body weight -- for women, it would probably be about 11 calories per pound) and weighing about 240 pounds (actually I weigh slightly more than 240). Estimate Weight Loss in a 30-Day Month, 100 Days Based on 240 pounds, not including exercise. Day's Pounds Lost Month 100 Day Calories Today Lost Equiv Lost Equiv 0 0.9 26.74 89.14 500 0.7 22.46 74.86 600 0.7 21.60 72.00 700 0.7 20.74 69.14 800 0.7 19.89 66.29 900 0.6 19.03 63.43 1000 0.6 18.17 60.57 1100 0.6 17.31 57.71 1200 0.5 16.46 54.86 1300 0.5 15.60 52.00 1400 0.5 14.74 49.14 1500 0.5 13.89 46.29 1600 0.4 13.03 43.43 1700 0.4 12.17 40.57 1800 0.4 11.31 37.71 1900 0.3 10.46 34.86 2000 0.3 9.60 32.00 3000 0.0 1.03 3.43 What the above chart says to me is that at the end of the day, if I take in 1200 calories at this point in my weight loss, I will lose (before exercise is factored in) .5 pounds a day, 16.46 pounds in a 30 day month, and about 55 pounds over a 100 day period. Taking in 1000 calories will result in a loss trend for me over 100 days of 61 pounds or so -- but I probably will lose less because my weight will have shifted down and it will be harder to lose the remaining weight. Calories in versus calories out. Hope this is of interest. Yours, Caleb |
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On Feb 3, 8:18 am, "determined" wrote:
"Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message . .. On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and how much you regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. How can you so cheerfully admit that you are back for the umpteenth time doing the exact same diet approach that you have done before, and obviously it hasn't been successful, or why would you be doing it again? Please keep your crap in alt.support.diet.low-calorie. At least that way it is contained. I'm sorry -- did somebody die and make you God while I was asleep? You don't have a block sender button on your system? Caleb |
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On Feb 2, 9:56 pm, "SFrunner" wrote:
On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, " wrote: On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the BS. SFRunner -- May I suggest you use your block sender button if you don't like my posts? This "some of us are sick and tired" sounds quite childish and makes use of a logical fallacy called "the band wagon effect." Seems to me that some people are very, very quick to criticize others. Caleb |
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"Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 9:56 pm, "SFrunner" wrote: On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, " wrote: On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the BS. SFRunner -- May I suggest you use your block sender button if you don't like my posts? This "some of us are sick and tired" sounds quite childish and makes use of a logical fallacy called "the band wagon effect." Seems to me that some people are very, very quick to criticize others. Caleb Oh bull****, Caleb. Seriously, and I thought you were an educated adult. We criticize because we KNOW your history. Did you hope no one would remember you? The thought that you could go on this ridiculous 100 day diet for like the 8th time in so many years, to lose the same lbs that you've been trying to lose the whole time, and no one is going to say anything negative is just pure ignorance. So please, go away. We won't killfile you, we'll continue to voice our opinions, which we are entitled to do. |
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"teachrmama" wrote in message ... Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster, please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very little support of this poster in here |
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wrote in message oups.com... Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster, please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very little support of this poster in here |
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"SFrunner" wrote in message oups.com... Holy crap My thoughts exactly. ==8O oh Mother Father! |
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"LFM" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster, please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very little support of this poster in here Actually, there are topics here that I do not enter opinions on because they are of no interest to me. It is easy to just skip over them. I understand that you feel great disdain for this poster, but you are not required to read his posts, or any conversations that he is in. I always respond respectfully to other posters, and do not feel that my conversation with Caleb is violating any of this newsgroup's rules and regulations. If you were standing behind me in the grocery store and I were carrying on a conversation with Caleb, would you ask that we go to McDonald's and discuss things, rather than conversing in a public place you just happened to be in? With all due respect, that is how I feel you are speaking to me here. |
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On Feb 3, 2:32 pm, "determined" wrote:
"Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 9:56 pm, "SFrunner" wrote: On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, " wrote: On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the BS. SFRunner -- May I suggest you use your block sender button if you don't like my posts? This "some of us are sick and tired" sounds quite childish and makes use of a logical fallacy called "the band wagon effect." Seems to me that some people are very, very quick to criticize others. Caleb Oh bull****, Caleb. Seriously, and I thought you were an educated adult. We criticize because we KNOW your history. Did you hope no one would remember you? The thought that you could go on this ridiculous 100 day diet for like the 8th time in so many years, to lose the same lbs that you've been trying to lose the whole time, and no one is going to say anything negative is just pure ignorance. So please, go away. We won't killfile you, we'll continue to voice our opinions, which we are entitled to do. Determined -- Let me get this straight -- you think you are entitled to voice YOUR opinions and you don't think I'm entitled to voice mine? Isn't this a wee bit hypocritical? :) Caleb Caleb |
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On Feb 3, 7:32 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
"LFM" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster, please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very little support of this poster in here Actually, there are topics here that I do not enter opinions on because they are of no interest to me. It is easy to just skip over them. I understand that you feel great disdain for this poster, but you are not required to read his posts, or any conversations that he is in. I always respond respectfully to other posters, and do not feel that my conversation with Caleb is violating any of this newsgroup's rules and regulations. If you were standing behind me in the grocery store and I were carrying on a conversation with Caleb, would you ask that we go to McDonald's and discuss things, rather than conversing in a public place you just happened to be in? With all due respect, that is how I feel you are speaking to me here. Teachrmama -- Thank you for your views! I think we are having a useful, civil conversation. I too would be quite irritated if someone prevented me from talking to someone I wanted to talk to. Yours, Caleb |
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On 3 Feb 2007 14:03:54 -0800, "Caleb" wrote:
On Feb 2, 9:56 pm, "SFrunner" wrote: On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, " wrote: On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the BS. SFRunner -- May I suggest you use your block sender button if you don't like my posts? This "some of us are sick and tired" sounds quite childish and makes use of a logical fallacy called "the band wagon effect." Seems to me that some people are very, very quick to criticize others. Caleb Caleb - ISTR that it was you who started asd.low-calorie for the very reason that people here were not able to relate to your approach to dieting and weight loss. Surely then it's not unreasonable to expect you to restrict your postings to that group if you want to continue repeating your 100 day regime. janice |
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On Feb 3, 4:56 pm, "Caleb" wrote:
On Feb 2, 11:27 pm, "teachrmama" wrote: "Caleb" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 6:30 pm, "teachrmama" wrote: "Caleb" wrote in message groups.com... On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote: "janice" wrote in message . .. On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Why don't you tell us howmuchyou lost on the last 100 day diet, and howmuchyou regained from day 101 onwards? janice So it is him! Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my progress. I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or complicated to take the weight off. There is noneedfor people suffer emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not easy. I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time -- hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc. Couple of points for people to remember: There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention. It all does break down tocaloriesin versuscaloriesused up. Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99 that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance beam" on Google.) Recordingcalories-- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres to your dietary goals -- is important. Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up metabolism) are not supported by current data. Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different folks. To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy. Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things. But, Caleb, are you really losing weight the first 100 days of every year, and regaining it during the rest of the year? That sounds like yoyo dieting, and that isn't terribly good for you, is it? Since you ask seriously -- I don't think I've lost significant amounts of weight for about 2 years or perhaps more. So it seems to me about time to get in harness again. I remember attending a conference up in Seattle in the early 90s and the presenter (it was on weight and exercise) noted how hugely people's diets varied calorically. Great big swings, with some days being several thousand and the next day being twice that. Eating consistently and healthily turns out to be quite difficult for most Americans, especially in this culture that makes snacks, large portions, a variety of foods, etc., more available. As to so called "yo-yo" dieting, one of the myths I guess I'd like to put to rest is that it's difficult to lose weight if one has done it before. There has been (certainly for me, and also the diet literature shows it as well) no increased difficulty in losing weight because I had done it before. There have been a variety of studies on weight- cycling and there appears to be no clear consensus of the downside. However, there is fairly clear agreement on what the downside of remaining overweight and out of shape is. (Also, should there be a doorman at WW who will not let you enter if you have several times regained the weight you lost? If that happened, I think not too many people who had a genuine weight problem would be permitted in.) Also, given a choice between losing some weight or getting some exercise (if one had to pick one or the other), some studies indicate that losing weight is probably more important. Weight loss is the difference between life or death for many people. And it sure can make a huge difference emotionally, socially, vocationally, etc. Mondale said in his run against Reagan: "It's not what we don't know that's going to get us. It's what we know that just ain't so." (I think he was quoting Will Rogers but am not sure.) And within the world of dieting, there are many statements made with the feel of utter certainty that turn out in the long run to be dubious. Actually, I don't agree with his politics but I think Michael Fumento's "Fat of the Land" is a pretty good look at some of the important variables in dieting. I'm pretty happy with the weight loss program I'm on now. Doesn't cost me anything. I feel comfortable knowing that I'm improving my physical status, that my clothes are getting looser, that I'll be able to carry a backpack longer distances, etc. I sure don't gnash my teeth and dwell on my failing. Life is short -- or, as my daughter once said, it's not that life is short -- it's that death is long. I'd rather be healthy than not. And if what I'm doing helps motivate others to lose weight in their own way, then that's to the good. Anyway, thanks for asking! I sure hope your program is going well! What kind of program are you on? Actually, I'm not on a "program." Last May 12 my doctor informed me that my blood pressure was at stroke level and that I would not live to see my children grow up if I did not get it under control--which included taking off some weight. I have lost 80 pounds since then with a combination of eating sensibly and eating the right foods--not a special program, but a new way of eating and way of life. I'm never going to go back to the way I ate before--or eat for the reasons I ate. It really is a new way of life. I also exercise--walk (rapidly, 4+ mph), go to Curves, and swim when the pool is open. I swam all summer, but the pool closed in October. I am waiting impatiently for it to reopen. The grocery store is 1/2 mile from my home, the bank and library are 1 mile, the drug stor a bit forther, and I walk to all of them whenever I can. I also ride my recumbent exercise cycle at home, and run in 5K races--I've placed 2nd in my age group twice! And I make time for ME. This is the hardest part. But I finally really did have to learn to say no. I figure Ineedto lose about 30 more pounds--although someone told me today that they didn't think I should lose any more weight. That was nice to hear. Mike -- I guess it's been about 1200 to 1500calories. I have days of slightly less and days of somewhat more. The following chart has been motivational to me. Not only does it suggest that I go for a lower calorie intake, it also shows that even if I take in significantly morecaloriesthan I am now doing, I will still lose a substantial amount of weight over time. Here it is, and it's based on being male (so about 13caloriesper pound of body weight -- for women, it would probably be about 11caloriesper pound) and weighing about 240 pounds (actually I weigh slightly more than 240). Estimate Weight Loss in a 30-Day Month, 100 Days Based on 240 pounds, not including exercise. Day's Pounds Lost Month 100 DayCalories Today Lost Equiv Lost Equiv 0 0.9 26.74 89.14 500 0.7 22.46 74.86 600 0.7 21.60 72.00 700 0.7 20.74 69.14 800 0.7 19.89 66.29 900 0.6 19.03 63.43 1000 0.6 18.17 60.57 1100 0.6 17.31 57.71 1200 0.5 16.46 54.86 1300 0.5 15.60 52.00 1400 0.5 14.74 49.14 1500 0.5 13.89 46.29 1600 0.4 13.03 43.43 1700 0.4 12.17 40.57 1800 0.4 11.31 37.71 1900 0.3 10.46 34.86 2000 0.3 9.60 32.00 3000 0.0 1.03 3.43 What the above ... read more » I am female, weight 155 pounds and 5'4". How do I make out a "Estimate Weight Loss in a 30-Day Month, 100 Days on 160 pounds, not including exercise" table. Thanks for your help. |
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janice wrote: On 3 Feb 2007 14:03:54 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: On Feb 2, 9:56 pm, "SFrunner" wrote: On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, " wrote: On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the BS. SFRunner -- May I suggest you use your block sender button if you don't like my posts? This "some of us are sick and tired" sounds quite childish and makes use of a logical fallacy called "the band wagon effect." Seems to me that some people are very, very quick to criticize others. Caleb Caleb - ISTR that it was you who started asd.low-calorie for the very reason that people here were not able to relate to your approach to dieting and weight loss. Surely then it's not unreasonable to expect you to restrict your postings to that group if you want to continue repeating your 100 day regime. janice I agree, janice. Caleb, I always tried to be civil in my replies to you. But I find it very hard to understand why someone would want to continue on the yo-yo diet path as long as you have. You may contend that it's healthier than remaining overweight but I'll suggest that it's healthier to work to maintain that weight loss. Isn't your weight at the beginning of this cycle higher than it was in previous attempts? IIRC your previous highs were in the 240 range and I believe it's 265 this time. You indicate your goal weight is 200. If that's correct then you're trying to lose 65 pounds in 100 days and that isn't considered a healthy weightloss rate. Your previous choice of food during your 100 days wasn't real healthy either. I seem to recall it contained a lot of tuna or sardines and cabbage soup. A few of the exercises you chose weren't considered exactly safe. I'm referring to carrying and swinging weights while walking. You're a well educated man but you fail to see the problems associated with your diet choices. As many others in the group have suggested you might want to use the group you setup for this type of dieting as it's not well received in this type of group. In the past you preached your diet to many who were just starting their weightloss journey and were eager to grab onto anything that would allow rapid weight loss instead of choosing a method that would allow them to lose at a sensible rate and have a much better chance of maintaining their weightloss. There are many health risks associated with a rapid weightloss. You might want to consider these risks against your yo-yo diet plan. Beverly 177/142/~140 SINCE 1996 |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 4, 6:14 am, "Beverly" wrote:
janice wrote: On 3 Feb 2007 14:03:54 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: On Feb 2, 9:56 pm, "SFrunner" wrote: On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, " wrote: On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the BS. SFRunner -- May I suggest you use your block sender button if you don't like my posts? This "some of us are sick and tired" sounds quite childish and makes use of a logical fallacy called "the band wagon effect." Seems to me that some people are very, very quick to criticize others. Caleb Caleb - ISTR that it was you who started asd.low-calorie for the very reason that people here were not able to relate to your approach to dieting and weight loss. Surely then it's not unreasonable to expect you to restrict your postings to that group if you want to continue repeating your 100 day regime. janice I agree, janice. Caleb, I always tried to be civil in my replies to you. But I find it very hard to understand why someone would want to continue on the yo-yo diet path as long as you have. You may contend that it's healthier than remaining overweight but I'll suggest that it's healthier to work to maintain that weight loss. Isn't your weight at the beginning of this cycle higher than it was in previous attempts? IIRC your previous highs were in the 240 range and I believe it's 265 this time. You indicate your goal weight is 200. If that's correct then you're trying to lose 65 pounds in 100 days and that isn't considered a healthy weightloss rate. Your previous choice of food during your 100 days wasn't real healthy either. I seem to recall it contained a lot of tuna or sardines and cabbage soup. A few of the exercises you chose weren't considered exactly safe. I'm referring to carrying and swinging weights while walking. You're a well educated man but you fail to see the problems associated with your diet choices. As many others in the group have suggested you might want to use the group you setup for this type of dieting as it's not well received in this type of group. In the past you preached your diet to many who were just starting their weightloss journey and were eager to grab onto anything that would allow rapid weight loss instead of choosing a method that would allow them to lose at a sensible rate and have a much better chance of maintaining their weightloss. There are many health risks associated with a rapid weightloss. You might want to consider these risks against your yo-yo diet plan. Beverly 177/142/~140 SINCE 1996 I guess one reason I'm cheerful is that weight loss is straightforward -- especially if one chooses an effective approach and sticks with it. There are a variety of reasons not to stick to an effective approach, and these reasons include people telling you that your approach is stupid, that it will not work, that it flies in the face of accepted, methods, etc., etc., etc. Such statements are too often toxic to those trying to lose weight and to get themselves healthier in a variety of ways. The old line -- "everybody knows" -- has been proven wrong time and again. Everybody just doesn't know effective and accurate methods. Going through some of the inaccurate advice I have heard on this list -- even from those who were apparently quite respected here -- would not be useful. If you don't like what I am saying, you can employ a killfile/block sender option. I hope that our ends are the same -- to be healthier and to support others as they continue in the long and difficult journey to health. A thousand roads lead to health -- or at least a lot of roads do. Actually, I feel very good about the methods I have used. Almost every single time I have tried this approach I have lost large amounts of weight and I have done so without much emotional turmoil. No second guessing, half-way measures. You probably are aware how difficult it is for many people to lose significant amounts of weight. Many, many try and most don't make it. The general approached I take clearly have effectively worked for me in the past and they are working for me again. They will work this way in the future. While people may not want to employ them, perhaps one or two of the techniques might be useful. And if not then this might be a demonstration that not every posting is helpful to every single reader. I think several of my views (e.g., ignoring the distractive and possibly bad advice of others, doing what works for you regardless of shrill criticism by others, being "good enough for long enough" to work meaningful health change, etc.) are not common here but surely will be helpful to those trying to lose weight. Not only can too many cooks spoil the broth, but too many people giving advice can lead people to maintaining their extra poundage. One of the reasons (I think) some people react so viscerally to my posts is that I have been able to adhere to a variety of techniques that result in weight loss and then I stick to them long enough to lose weight and be healthy, and I post the details of my journey as I go along. I don't know anyone else here who has done so in such fine detail on an ongoing basis. I also have stuck with my plan (e.g., I am not going to try new diets as larger varieties of food make me eat more, I am not going to boost my daily calorie intake in the unproved and false expectation that eating more calories will allow me to lose more weight, etc.) and perhaps that has irritated others who want to give advice. But a lot of the time the words that should come out of our keyboards should be: "Hey, that's terrific!" Well done! Keep it up! You're doing great!" And words such as that are too rare from some of the Usenetters here. We find flaws in the approaches of others and demean the intentions and progress that others make IF IT DOESN'T COMPORT TO OUR OWN NARROW STANDARDS OF WHAT PROGRESS IS. I do not write these posts to irritate you or anyone else but to support those going on their difficult journey. I'd be happy to discuss any aspect of my approach to weight loss with anyone who is asking a serious question. This topic is too important to shut out voices that may be helpful. Caleb |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
Caleb wrote: I do not write these posts to irritate you or anyone else but to support those going on their difficult journey. I'd be happy to discuss any aspect of my approach to weight loss with anyone who is asking a serious question. This topic is too important to shut out voices that may be helpful. Caleb Isn't that why you setup the low-calorie group? That's why there are several groups - low-carb, WW, low-cal, very low-cal etc. Posting in the appropriate group doesn't require too much thought. Posting in the wrong group is often looked upon as trolling. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"Caleb" wrote in message I guess one reason I'm cheerful is that weight loss is straightforward -- especially if one chooses an effective approach and sticks with it. I think that this statement hits the nail right on the head. "especially if one chooses an effective approach and sticks with it" If your approach was effective, and you were sticking with it, you wouldn't be doing this for the 8th time. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
Would you care to discuss with us the fact that you have lost and regained
more weight each time you have tried this method? Because google allows us to look back at your track record and see that in fact, when you started this 100 day diet back in 2001, your starting weight was 241, and here it is, 2006 and your new starting weight is over 250. So you have effectively gained weight through all these miserable diets. Can you cheerfully explain why you need another 100 day diet? Or will you just ignore us and these legitimate questions, because you simply do not have a good answer? |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"teachrmama" wrote in message ... "LFM" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster, please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very little support of this poster in here Actually, there are topics here that I do not enter opinions on because they are of no interest to me. It is easy to just skip over them. I understand that you feel great disdain for this poster, but you are not required to read his posts, or any conversations that he is in. I always respond respectfully to other posters, and do not feel that my conversation with Caleb is violating any of this newsgroup's rules and regulations. If you were standing behind me in the grocery store and I were carrying on a conversation with Caleb, would you ask that we go to McDonald's and discuss things, rather than conversing in a public place you just happened to be in? With all due respect, that is how I feel you are speaking to me here. You know what? Caleb is nothing more than a troll... The fact that you want to maintain a dialogue with a troll kind of hurts your own credibility. It doesn't take a whole lot of knowledge of diet/health to know that his approach is not healthy or effective at permanent weight loss. If you can't figure that out for yourself, fine. But it leaves the rest of us here who have seen him go through this countless times absolutely flabbergasted and exasperated. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"determined" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "LFM" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster, please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very little support of this poster in here Actually, there are topics here that I do not enter opinions on because they are of no interest to me. It is easy to just skip over them. I understand that you feel great disdain for this poster, but you are not required to read his posts, or any conversations that he is in. I always respond respectfully to other posters, and do not feel that my conversation with Caleb is violating any of this newsgroup's rules and regulations. If you were standing behind me in the grocery store and I were carrying on a conversation with Caleb, would you ask that we go to McDonald's and discuss things, rather than conversing in a public place you just happened to be in? With all due respect, that is how I feel you are speaking to me here. You know what? Caleb is nothing more than a troll... The fact that you want to maintain a dialogue with a troll kind of hurts your own credibility. It doesn't take a whole lot of knowledge of diet/health to know that his approach is not healthy or effective at permanent weight loss. If you can't figure that out for yourself, fine. But it leaves the rest of us here who have seen him go through this countless times absolutely flabbergasted and exasperated. I agree with you that losing weight and regaining it is not a good way to maintain a healthy weight or lifestyle. I certainly have no intentions of following such a plan. I have come too far in my own efforts to want to try a plan that is not a total change to a new way of eating. But I am curious as to Caleb's reasons for the choices he is making, and how he came to make the choices he has. Maybe he comes back here repeatedly because he is learning new approaches each time he comes. I see him as very polite--I haven't seen him trying to force his choices on anyone else. I do hope that he will realize that if he continues with the healthy eating choices he makes in the 100 days, he will be healthier than if he regains and reloses the same weight time after time. But having polite conversations with him does not mean that I am espousing his choices, and I am not certain why it riles up some of the regular posters here. I find that odd. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"Caleb" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 4, 6:14 am, "Beverly" wrote: janice wrote: On 3 Feb 2007 14:03:54 -0800, "Caleb" wrote: On Feb 2, 9:56 pm, "SFrunner" wrote: On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, " wrote: On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote: This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe (hopefully) longer. If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see them there! Yours, Caleb Day 32 - 19 pounds gone Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the last week. Thanks. Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the BS. SFRunner -- May I suggest you use your block sender button if you don't like my posts? This "some of us are sick and tired" sounds quite childish and makes use of a logical fallacy called "the band wagon effect." Seems to me that some people are very, very quick to criticize others. Caleb Caleb - ISTR that it was you who started asd.low-calorie for the very reason that people here were not able to relate to your approach to dieting and weight loss. Surely then it's not unreasonable to expect you to restrict your postings to that group if you want to continue repeating your 100 day regime. janice I agree, janice. Caleb, I always tried to be civil in my replies to you. But I find it very hard to understand why someone would want to continue on the yo-yo diet path as long as you have. You may contend that it's healthier than remaining overweight but I'll suggest that it's healthier to work to maintain that weight loss. Isn't your weight at the beginning of this cycle higher than it was in previous attempts? IIRC your previous highs were in the 240 range and I believe it's 265 this time. You indicate your goal weight is 200. If that's correct then you're trying to lose 65 pounds in 100 days and that isn't considered a healthy weightloss rate. Your previous choice of food during your 100 days wasn't real healthy either. I seem to recall it contained a lot of tuna or sardines and cabbage soup. A few of the exercises you chose weren't considered exactly safe. I'm referring to carrying and swinging weights while walking. You're a well educated man but you fail to see the problems associated with your diet choices. As many others in the group have suggested you might want to use the group you setup for this type of dieting as it's not well received in this type of group. In the past you preached your diet to many who were just starting their weightloss journey and were eager to grab onto anything that would allow rapid weight loss instead of choosing a method that would allow them to lose at a sensible rate and have a much better chance of maintaining their weightloss. There are many health risks associated with a rapid weightloss. You might want to consider these risks against your yo-yo diet plan. Beverly 177/142/~140 SINCE 1996 I guess one reason I'm cheerful is that weight loss is straightforward -- especially if one chooses an effective approach and sticks with it. There are a variety of reasons not to stick to an effective approach, and these reasons include people telling you that your approach is stupid, that it will not work, that it flies in the face of accepted, methods, etc., etc., etc. Such statements are too often toxic to those trying to lose weight and to get themselves healthier in a variety of ways. The old line -- "everybody knows" -- has been proven wrong time and again. Everybody just doesn't know effective and accurate methods. Going through some of the inaccurate advice I have heard on this list -- even from those who were apparently quite respected here -- would not be useful. If you don't like what I am saying, you can employ a killfile/block sender option. I hope that our ends are the same -- to be healthier and to support others as they continue in the long and difficult journey to health. A thousand roads lead to health -- or at least a lot of roads do. Actually, I feel very good about the methods I have used. Almost every single time I have tried this approach I have lost large amounts of weight and I have done so without much emotional turmoil. No second guessing, half-way measures. You probably are aware how difficult it is for many people to lose significant amounts of weight. Many, many try and most don't make it. The general approached I take clearly have effectively worked for me in the past and they are working for me again. They will work this way in the future. While people may not want to employ them, perhaps one or two of the techniques might be useful. And if not then this might be a demonstration that not every posting is helpful to every single reader. I think several of my views (e.g., ignoring the distractive and possibly bad advice of others, doing what works for you regardless of shrill criticism by others, being "good enough for long enough" to work meaningful health change, etc.) are not common here but surely will be helpful to those trying to lose weight. Not only can too many cooks spoil the broth, but too many people giving advice can lead people to maintaining their extra poundage. One of the reasons (I think) some people react so viscerally to my posts is that I have been able to adhere to a variety of techniques that result in weight loss and then I stick to them long enough to lose weight and be healthy, and I post the details of my journey as I go along. I don't know anyone else here who has done so in such fine detail on an ongoing basis. I also have stuck with my plan (e.g., I am not going to try new diets as larger varieties of food make me eat more, I am not going to boost my daily calorie intake in the unproved and false expectation that eating more calories will allow me to lose more weight, etc.) and perhaps that has irritated others who want to give advice. But a lot of the time the words that should come out of our keyboards should be: "Hey, that's terrific!" Well done! Keep it up! You're doing great!" And words such as that are too rare from some of the Usenetters here. We find flaws in the approaches of others and demean the intentions and progress that others make IF IT DOESN'T COMPORT TO OUR OWN NARROW STANDARDS OF WHAT PROGRESS IS. I do not write these posts to irritate you or anyone else but to support those going on their difficult journey. I'd be happy to discuss any aspect of my approach to weight loss with anyone who is asking a serious question. This topic is too important to shut out voices that may be helpful. You're right about the fact that losing weight is not that difficult, Caleb. It really isn't. That's why some of these weight loss companies are thriving. They depend on people eating their prepackaged, low calorie meals--and the pounds fly off. It isn't the losing that is the difficult part of the proposition--it's keeping the weight off. That is the part of your plan that I have not seen you talk about yet. I would be interested in knowing how you plan to maintain your weight loss once you reach your goal. For me, I am still in the process of losing weight, but I know that once I get to goal, I will need to continue to keep watch on how much I eat, and will need to continue with my physical activities to maintain my weight. There is no option to go back to the way I ate before. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On 4 Feb 2007 06:53:33 -0800, "Caleb" wrote:
One of the reasons (I think) some people react so viscerally to my posts is that I have been able to adhere to a variety of techniques that result in weight loss and then I stick to them long enough to lose weight and be healthy, and I post the details of my journey as I go along. I don't know anyone else here who has done so in such fine detail on an ongoing basis. Um, you might try googling my "Food & Exercise" posts for the last 4 years or so. I've posted fine detail of my diet and exercise on a daily basis for all that time -- showing my journey to losing well over 100 lbs. and MAINTAINING THAT LOSS. My problem with your posts -- having seen you here now off and on for many years -- is that you don't really share with newbies on the list the fact that you do this once a year or so, lose a lot of weight, and then gain it all back. Because this isn't obvious to the newbies, many are attracted to your approach because of its apparent success. Few of these people, though, would deliberately choose a diet approach that had no demonstrated success in keeping weight off. I think what concerns many of us is that you present yourself as an expert without actually having achieved what most of us would call success at weight loss. Maybe you would have weighed 500 lbs by now if you didn't do this annually, so to that extent I guess you could call your method a proven approach to weight maintenance (though it looks like the average is creeping up a bit). But I doubt it's what most people are hoping to accomplish. Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"teachrmama" wrote in message ... "determined" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "LFM" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster, please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very little support of this poster in here Actually, there are topics here that I do not enter opinions on because they are of no interest to me. It is easy to just skip over them. I understand that you feel great disdain for this poster, but you are not required to read his posts, or any conversations that he is in. I always respond respectfully to other posters, and do not feel that my conversation with Caleb is violating any of this newsgroup's rules and regulations. If you were standing behind me in the grocery store and I were carrying on a conversation with Caleb, would you ask that we go to McDonald's and discuss things, rather than conversing in a public place you just happened to be in? With all due respect, that is how I feel you are speaking to me here. You know what? Caleb is nothing more than a troll... The fact that you want to maintain a dialogue with a troll kind of hurts your own credibility. It doesn't take a whole lot of knowledge of diet/health to know that his approach is not healthy or effective at permanent weight loss. If you can't figure that out for yourself, fine. But it leaves the rest of us here who have seen him go through this countless times absolutely flabbergasted and exasperated. I agree with you that losing weight and regaining it is not a good way to maintain a healthy weight or lifestyle. I certainly have no intentions of following such a plan. I have come too far in my own efforts to want to try a plan that is not a total change to a new way of eating. But I am curious as to Caleb's reasons for the choices he is making, and how he came to make the choices he has. Maybe he comes back here repeatedly because he is learning new approaches each time he comes. I see him as very polite--I haven't seen him trying to force his choices on anyone else. I do hope that he will realize that if he continues with the healthy eating choices he makes in the 100 days, he will be healthier than if he regains and reloses the same weight time after time. But having polite conversations with him does not mean that I am espousing his choices, and I am not certain why it riles up some of the regular posters here. I find that odd. Because he has been doing this for about 6 yrs or more, every single year. Google him. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"determined" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "determined" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "LFM" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster, please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very little support of this poster in here Actually, there are topics here that I do not enter opinions on because they are of no interest to me. It is easy to just skip over them. I understand that you feel great disdain for this poster, but you are not required to read his posts, or any conversations that he is in. I always respond respectfully to other posters, and do not feel that my conversation with Caleb is violating any of this newsgroup's rules and regulations. If you were standing behind me in the grocery store and I were carrying on a conversation with Caleb, would you ask that we go to McDonald's and discuss things, rather than conversing in a public place you just happened to be in? With all due respect, that is how I feel you are speaking to me here. You know what? Caleb is nothing more than a troll... The fact that you want to maintain a dialogue with a troll kind of hurts your own credibility. It doesn't take a whole lot of knowledge of diet/health to know that his approach is not healthy or effective at permanent weight loss. If you can't figure that out for yourself, fine. But it leaves the rest of us here who have seen him go through this countless times absolutely flabbergasted and exasperated. I agree with you that losing weight and regaining it is not a good way to maintain a healthy weight or lifestyle. I certainly have no intentions of following such a plan. I have come too far in my own efforts to want to try a plan that is not a total change to a new way of eating. But I am curious as to Caleb's reasons for the choices he is making, and how he came to make the choices he has. Maybe he comes back here repeatedly because he is learning new approaches each time he comes. I see him as very polite--I haven't seen him trying to force his choices on anyone else. I do hope that he will realize that if he continues with the healthy eating choices he makes in the 100 days, he will be healthier than if he regains and reloses the same weight time after time. But having polite conversations with him does not mean that I am espousing his choices, and I am not certain why it riles up some of the regular posters here. I find that odd. Because he has been doing this for about 6 yrs or more, every single year. Google him. I have no doubt about what you are saying. And he certainly has not disagreed with you on that issue. I just don't think people should be told not to talk to someone else just because that person has introduced unwelcome ideas in the past. I am very curious as to why he keeps following the same approach over and over when it does not give him what he wants--permanent weight loss. |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
On Feb 4, 10:49 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
"determined" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "LFM" wrote in message m... "teachrmama" wrote in message ... Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster, please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very little support of this poster in here Actually, there are topics here that I do not enter opinions on because they are of no interest to me. It is easy to just skip over them. I understand that you feel great disdain for this poster, but you are not required to read his posts, or any conversations that he is in. I always respond respectfully to other posters, and do not feel that my conversation with Caleb is violating any of this newsgroup's rules and regulations. If you were standing behind me in the grocery store and I were carrying on a conversation with Caleb, would you ask that we go to McDonald's and discuss things, rather than conversing in a public place you just happened to be in? With all due respect, that is how I feel you are speaking to me here. You know what? Caleb is nothing more than a troll... The fact that you want to maintain a dialogue with a troll kind of hurts your own credibility. It doesn't take a whole lot of knowledge of diet/health to know that his approach is not healthy or effective at permanent weight loss. If you can't figure that out for yourself, fine. But it leaves the rest of us here who have seen him go through this countless times absolutely flabbergasted and exasperated. I agree with you that losing weight and regaining it is not a good way to maintain a healthy weight or lifestyle. I certainly have no intentions of following such a plan. I have come too far in my own efforts to want to try a plan that is not a total change to a new way of eating. But I am curious as to Caleb's reasons for the choices he is making, and how he came to make the choices he has. Maybe he comes back here repeatedly because he is learning new approaches each time he comes. I see him as very polite--I haven't seen him trying to force his choices on anyone else. I do hope that he will realize that if he continues with the healthy eating choices he makes in the 100 days, he will be healthier than if he regains and reloses the same weight time after time. But having polite conversations with him does not mean that I am espousing his choices, and I am not certain why it riles up some of the regular posters here. I find that odd. Have no fear, if you miss it this year, he'll be back around next year!!! |
Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
"teachrmama" wrote in message ... "determined" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "determined" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "LFM" wrote in message . .. "teachrmama" wrote in message ... Teachrmama - if you are truely interested in a dialog with this poster, please take it to Alt.support.diet.low-calorie You will find very little support of this poster in here Actually, there are topics here that I do not enter opinions on because they are of no interest to me. It is easy to just skip over them. I understand that you feel great disdain for this poster, but you are not required to read his posts, or any conversations that he is in. I always respond respectfully to other posters, and do not feel that my conversation with Caleb is violating any of this newsgroup's rules and regulations. If you were standing behind me in the grocery store and I were carrying on a conversation with Caleb, would you ask that we go to McDonald's and discuss things, rather than conversing in a public place you just happened to be in? With all due respect, that is how I feel you are speaking to me here. You know what? Caleb is nothing more than a troll... The fact that you want to maintain a dialogue with a troll kind of hurts your own credibility. It doesn't take a whole lot of knowledge of diet/health to know that his approach is not healthy or effective at permanent weight loss. If you can't figure that out for yourself, fine. But it leaves the rest of us here who have seen him go through this countless times absolutely flabbergasted and exasperated. I agree with you that losing weight and regaining it is not a good way to maintain a healthy weight or lifestyle. I certainly have no intentions of following such a plan. I have come too far in my own efforts to want to try a plan that is not a total change to a new way of eating. But I am curious as to Caleb's reasons for the choices he is making, and how he came to make the choices he has. Maybe he comes back here repeatedly because he is learning new approaches each time he comes. I see him as very polite--I haven't seen him trying to force his choices on anyone else. I do hope that he will realize that if he continues with the healthy eating choices he makes in the 100 days, he will be healthier than if he regains and reloses the same weight time after time. But having polite conversations with him does not mean that I am espousing his choices, and I am not certain why it riles up some of the regular posters here. I find that odd. Because he has been doing this for about 6 yrs or more, every single year. Google him. I have no doubt about what you are saying. And he certainly has not disagreed with you on that issue. I just don't think people should be told not to talk to someone else just because that person has introduced unwelcome ideas in the past. I am very curious as to why he keeps following the same approach over and over when it does not give him what he wants--permanent weight loss. I am curious too. Keep in mind, this man is a clinical psychologist. He ought to understand this. Or is this some sort of "experiment" he's trying with us. |
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