A Lowering of the Food Budget
I am not a long time poster here but this appears to be an appropriate
blog for my situation. Like many others my total income has became drastically reduced due to economic conditions. As a result I have, by necessity became very penny conscious, clipping coupons, seldom eating out and skipping the more expensive items at the market. For the present, at least, one can truthfully say that I am one of those living below the government poverty line. I have often read reports that the reason for the high percentage of poor folks being obese is because their poverty prevents them from buying and consuming the right foods. I am not presently overweight, let alone obese. However does what I have read often apply to me. That is, because I will be spending less on groceries I am destined to become obese? In the past I have not completely bought into this idea. It just didn't seem logical to me. In fact, I had serious doubts but now that I am now cash-challenged I am concerned. I would like to hear the opinions of others. It that oft repeated theory is actually true then I can expect to begin gaining weight. Thanks in advance for your inputs. Linda B |
A Lowering of the Food Budget
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Linda Braxton wrote: I am not a long time poster here but this appears to be an appropriate blog for my situation. Like many others my total income has became drastically reduced due to economic conditions. As a result I have, by necessity became very penny conscious, clipping coupons, seldom eating out and skipping the more expensive items at the market. For the present, at least, one can truthfully say that I am one of those living below the government poverty line. I have often read reports that the reason for the high percentage of poor folks being obese is because their poverty prevents them from buying and consuming the right foods. I am not presently overweight, let alone obese. However does what I have read often apply to me. That is, because I will be spending less on groceries I am destined to become obese? In the past I have not completely bought into this idea. It just didn't seem logical to me. In fact, I had serious doubts but now that I am now cash-challenged I am concerned. I would like to hear the opinions of others. It that oft repeated theory is actually true then I can expect to begin gaining weight. Thanks in advance for your inputs. Linda B First, thank you for keeping the news group alive http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/magazine/22wwlnlede.t.html Please ask any questions that come to mind. -- - Billy Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans "appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of waste, fraud and abuse." http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...is-kucinich/re p-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/ [W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And it's not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. That's hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they don't get away with no taxation. - Ralph Nader http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/19/ralph_naders_solution_to_debt_crisis |
A Lowering of the Food Budget
On Oct 18, 1:35*am, Linda Braxton wrote:
I am not a long time poster here but this appears to be an appropriate blog for my situation. Like many others my total income has became drastically reduced due to economic conditions. As a result I have, by necessity became very penny conscious, clipping coupons, seldom eating out and skipping the more expensive items at the market. *For the present, at least, one can truthfully *say that I am one of those living below the government poverty line. I have often read reports that the reason for the high percentage of poor folks being obese is because their poverty prevents them from buying and consuming the right foods. I am not presently overweight, let alone obese. *However does what I have read often apply to me. *That is, *because I will be spending less on groceries I am destined to become obese? In the past I have not completely bought into this idea. *It just didn't seem logical to me. *In fact, I had serious doubts but now that I am now cash-challenged I am concerned. I would like to hear the opinions of others. *It that oft repeated theory is actually true then I can expect to begin gaining weight. Thanks in advance for your inputs. Linda B I'd say the whole subject is a complex one. It's probably true that in general you can get the most calories at the lowest prices by buying crap food, like packaged mac n cheese. But I can also buy a quart of cream at Costco for $3. How many calories are there in that? And how much less food does one consume if you're limiting the amount by being on LC compared to wolfing down 2X the quantities of junk food? Also, in the last couple years with the diversion of farming to biofuels, the price on those grain based carb foods, eg chips, corn flakes, etc has gone up a lot. How about if you gain 20 lbs and have to then buy new clothes? Then repeat in another 6 months. Anyone factor that in? I think it's true that those with lower incomes, living in poverty, etc are eating more junk food. But I doubt it's as simple as the reason being it costs less and that as soon as your income goes down, you'll be there. It's also a factor of personal responsibility, of being ignorant and not knowing or not caring about what they eat, etc. For LC, there are certainly food choices that are reasoable. Around here chicken is on sale for 40% off every couple weeks. And for vegs, while I usually buy fresh, to save money you could use frozen, or even canned. The canned is yucky, but it depends on your motivation. If you want to do LC it's a choice instead of that $3 bag of chips. Costco has eggs and cream at a fraction of the grocery store prices. If you make your own big pot of LC soup, per serving, it will probably be the same price as buying a can of soup. But it takes the motivation to do that and it's more work. It's much easier to reach for that quick and easy mac n cheese, hence the problem. Bottom line, I think it's certainly more difficult to stay on LC on a tight budget, but it's probably managable. |
A Lowering of the Food Budget
On Oct 18, 2:20*am, Billy wrote:
In article , *Linda Braxton wrote: I am not a long time poster here but this appears to be an appropriate blog for my situation. Like many others my total income has became drastically reduced due to economic conditions. As a result I have, by necessity became very penny conscious, clipping coupons, seldom eating out and skipping the more expensive items at the market. *For the present, at least, one can truthfully *say that I am one of those living below the government poverty line. I have often read reports that the reason for the high percentage of poor folks being obese is because their poverty prevents them from buying and consuming the right foods. I am not presently overweight, let alone obese. *However does what I have read often apply to me. *That is, *because I will be spending less on groceries I am destined to become obese? In the past I have not completely bought into this idea. *It just didn't seem logical to me. *In fact, I had serious doubts but now that I am now cash-challenged I am concerned. I would like to hear the opinions of others. *It that oft repeated theory is actually true then I can expect to begin gaining weight. Thanks in advance for your inputs. Linda B First, thank you for keeping the news group alive http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/magazine/22wwlnlede.t.html Please ask any questions that come to mind. -- - Billy Here's one. Why do you continue to make off topic political posts, which are usually lies, part of every post? And then bitch about others that respond to them? |
A Lowering of the Food Budget
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, Billy wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/magazine/22wwlnlede.t.html Note the date of the article, but the farm bill is coming up soon so this article is timely. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/bu...ubsidy-ends-an other-may-rise-to-replace-it.html?hp -- It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting. -- H. L. Mencken |
A Lowering of the Food Budget
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Walter Bushell wrote: In article , Billy wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/magazine/22wwlnlede.t.html Note the date of the article, but the farm bill is coming up soon so this article is timely. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/bu...ubsidy-ends-an other-may-rise-to-replace-it.html?hp Good article :O) I have little time at present, so I only gave the article a cursory read, but it lays out some of the farm problems with 80% of family farms receiving no subsidies. Subsidies are given to grain growers which encourages carbohydrate consumption, profits Cargill and Archer Daniels Midland, and undercuts foreign farmers who can't compete with grain sold below production costs, which overall reduces the world's food supply. Subsidies are also given to CAFOs. If CAFOs production costs weren't subsidized (externalized), there would be fewer CAFOs and public health would benefit from their decline. -- - Billy Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans "appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of waste, fraud and abuse." http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...is-kucinich/re p-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/ [W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And itıs not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. Thatıs hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they donıt get away with no taxation. - Ralph Nader http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/19/ralph_naders_solution_to_debt_crisis |
A Lowering of the Food Budget
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, " wrote: On Oct 18, 2:20*am, Billy wrote: In article , *Linda Braxton wrote: I am not a long time poster here but this appears to be an appropriate blog for my situation. Like many others my total income has became drastically reduced due to economic conditions. As a result I have, by necessity became very penny conscious, clipping coupons, seldom eating out and skipping the more expensive items at the market. *For the present, at least, one can truthfully *say that I am one of those living below the government poverty line. I have often read reports that the reason for the high percentage of poor folks being obese is because their poverty prevents them from buying and consuming the right foods. I am not presently overweight, let alone obese. *However does what I have read often apply to me. *That is, *because I will be spending less on groceries I am destined to become obese? In the past I have not completely bought into this idea. *It just didn't seem logical to me. *In fact, I had serious doubts but now that I am now cash-challenged I am concerned. I would like to hear the opinions of others. *It that oft repeated theory is actually true then I can expect to begin gaining weight. Thanks in advance for your inputs. Linda B First, thank you for keeping the news group alive http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/magazine/22wwlnlede.t.html Please ask any questions that come to mind. -- - Billy Here's one. Why do you continue to make off topic political posts, which are usually lies, part of every post? And then bitch about others that respond to them? My sig is the same in all news groups. My posts reflect on the threads of the posts. My "sig" only questions why our government doesn't cut expenditures in those areas that have been identified as pork, and why cut social welfare and leave corporate welfare, which is already 50% larger, untouched? For this, you and your running dogs call me a communist. I'm sure there must be help available to you, if you wanted it. Happy now? ;O) -- - Billy Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans "appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of waste, fraud and abuse." http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...is-kucinich/re p-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/ [W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And itıs not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. Thatıs hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they donıt get away with no taxation. - Ralph Nader http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/19/ralph_naders_solution_to_debt_crisis |
A Lowering of the Food Budget
On Oct 19, 12:23*am, Billy wrote:
In article , " wrote: On Oct 18, 2:20*am, Billy wrote: In article , *Linda Braxton wrote: I am not a long time poster here but this appears to be an appropriate blog for my situation. Like many others my total income has became drastically reduced due to economic conditions. As a result I have, by necessity became very penny conscious, clipping coupons, seldom eating out and skipping the more expensive items at the market. *For the present, at least, one can truthfully *say that I am one of those living below the government poverty line. I have often read reports that the reason for the high percentage of poor folks being obese is because their poverty prevents them from buying and consuming the right foods. I am not presently overweight, let alone obese. *However does what I have read often apply to me. *That is, *because I will be spending less on groceries I am destined to become obese? In the past I have not completely bought into this idea. *It just didn't seem logical to me. *In fact, I had serious doubts but now that I am now cash-challenged I am concerned. I would like to hear the opinions of others. *It that oft repeated theory is actually true then I can expect to begin gaining weight. Thanks in advance for your inputs. Linda B First, thank you for keeping the news group alive http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/magazine/22wwlnlede.t.html Please ask any questions that come to mind. -- - Billy Here's one. *Why do you continue to make off topic political posts, which are usually lies, part of every post? *And then bitch about others that respond to them? My sig is the same in all news groups. And I'm sure it's as equally unwelcome there too. My posts reflect on the threads of the posts. My "sig" only questions why our government doesn't cut expenditures in those areas that have been identified as pork, and why cut social welfare and leave corporate welfare, which is already 50% larger, untouched? Take a look at spending on social programs in 2007 vs 2011: Social Security 2007 $620bil 2011 $780bil +26% Health and Human Services 2007 $670bil 2011 $890bl +33% That's right, despite all your whining and bogus claims, spending on social programs has not been cut and in reality it has increased dramatically in just 4 years. Has your families income gone up 33% in four years? For this, you and your running dogs call me a communist. I'm sure there must be help available to you, if you wanted it. Happy now? ;O) I'm not sure if you're a communist, but you're clearly either not informed of the facts or a liar. |
A Lowering of the Food Budget
On Oct 17, 9:35*pm, Linda Braxton wrote:
I am not a long time poster here but this appears to be an appropriate blog for my situation. Like many others my total income has became drastically reduced due to economic conditions. As a result I have, by necessity became very penny conscious, clipping coupons, seldom eating out and skipping the more expensive items at the market. *For the present, at least, one can truthfully *say that I am one of those living below the government poverty line. I have often read reports that the reason for the high percentage of poor folks being obese is because their poverty prevents them from buying and consuming the right foods. I am not presently overweight, let alone obese. *However does what I have read often apply to me. *That is, *because I will be spending less on groceries I am destined to become obese? In the past I have not completely bought into this idea. *It just didn't seem logical to me. *In fact, I had serious doubts but now that I am now cash-challenged I am concerned. I would like to hear the opinions of others. *It that oft repeated theory is actually true then I can expect to begin gaining weight. Thanks in advance for your inputs. Linda B Shopping list. Whole chicken save the bones for broth. Large bag of Winco pinto beans. Carb yes but still doable in pretty low diets. Costco for Olive oil, lettuce, cream, cheeses. Frozen fish for Walmart not the fresh water ones but there are some lower cost ones that are wild caught. A Mexican grocery store will offer more meat parts at the low end. Granted this may take some adjustment. Sometime quite competitive and you get see what the nation will look like in another generation ;-) Canned sardine the BIG cans from Mexico can be a pretty cheap easy food. Find a brand you like. the Mexican grocery store will offer assorted brands. Dried peppers are useful and lasting. Eggs the 60 packs. Avoid corn and soy oil. Canola and Peanut are a bit better but not great. Coconut has some merits but is costly and adds too many calories to foods. Preformed beef burgers can be farily cost effective plus you can cook the eggs after the burgers in the fat. I'd suggest peanuts as not a low carb food but slow carb food ; however the price is in the process of doubling. Sunflower seed are cheaper though think the fats in tree nuts and coconuts are healthier. Parsley and cilantro for soups. Green beans frozen. Spinach frozen Ghetto Sized jars of hot peppers can be valuable to spice up the diet. Salt Gallon size jugs of 5.5% vinegar for use to preserve eggs and use on salads. It is possible to flavor distilled vinegar such that it can stand in more costly vinegars. Plant a nut tree if the climate permits, times are going to be hard for decades and opposing party will only make it worse. Filbert and walnuts towards the north and almonds in warmer climates. Nutritional yeast can be a good buy at times. Some tastes decent. Dolomite can stand in for dairy calcium and nut magnesium and has no carbs or I-131. Whole grain rice has the down side of being high carb and tends to go rancid. It can be bought in large bags. Oats are more stable though they are very high carb. OK for nondiabetes needing a check eat but not for diabetics. The problem with mush one tends to want it with milk or cream and perhaps sugar. Cracked wheat is pretty stable though not as good as Oats. If you parboil it and then heat further with burger grease it can be filling. Clearly not a low carb food. Turn the heat down to 60 degree F and bundle up. Plan a garden in a sunny spot. Make it easy stuff like tomatoes, green beans, squash summer and winter, maybe peppers. Skip the carrot and corn. Some greens and broccoli can be good choices. |
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