"Bob in CT" wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm

"The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and
headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables
and
whole grains, Astrup said."

TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables.

"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of
carbohydrate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you
go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?

gtomey

I've operated below 150g/day for a long, long time. This makes the Lancet
look like idiots.

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Bob in CT
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Not only have many of us consumed less than 150g/day (actually under
70g/day)
long term, but according to prevailing theory I burn more carbs in my
morning
workouts than I consume each day (i.e. well over twice the calories of my
max
carb intake).

The accumulating literature on low carb diets from the medical community
looks
pretty much the same as the literature on the diet-cholesterol hypothesis.
No matter
that the data show, the conclusions are always the same nonsense.

Alan

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:25:53 -0600, Alan Wright wrote:


"Bob in CT" wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm

"The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and
headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables
and
whole grains, Astrup said."

TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables.

"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of
carbohydrate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet
you
go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?

gtomey

I've operated below 150g/day for a long, long time. This makes the
Lancet
look like idiots.

--
Bob in CT
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Not only have many of us consumed less than 150g/day (actually under
70g/day)
long term, but according to prevailing theory I burn more carbs in my
morning
workouts than I consume each day (i.e. well over twice the calories of my
max
carb intake).

The accumulating literature on low carb diets from the medical community
looks
pretty much the same as the literature on the diet-cholesterol
hypothesis.
No matter
that the data show, the conclusions are always the same nonsense.

Alan



I agree with you. I burn some obscene amount of calories biking each
week, yet I take in nowhere even close to that amount of calories in
carbs.

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Bob in CT
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On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:25:53 -0600, Alan Wright wrote:


"Bob in CT" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm

"The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and
headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables
and
whole grains, Astrup said."

TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables.

"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of
carbohydrate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet
you
go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?

gtomey

I've operated below 150g/day for a long, long time. This makes the
Lancet
look like idiots.

--
Bob in CT
Remove ".x" to reply

Not only have many of us consumed less than 150g/day (actually under
70g/day)
long term, but according to prevailing theory I burn more carbs in my
morning
workouts than I consume each day (i.e. well over twice the calories of my
max
carb intake).

The accumulating literature on low carb diets from the medical community
looks
pretty much the same as the literature on the diet-cholesterol
hypothesis.
No matter
that the data show, the conclusions are always the same nonsense.

Alan



I agree with you. I burn some obscene amount of calories biking each
week, yet I take in nowhere even close to that amount of calories in
carbs.

--
Bob in CT
Remove ".x" to reply

Gregory Toomey wrote:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm

"The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and
headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables and
whole grains, Astrup said."

TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables.

"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?

Wonder if that means *all* carbs including the swell indigestible
fiber from veggies? It begins to make sense then. But just begins.

Pastorio

Gregory Toomey wrote:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm

"The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and
headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables and
whole grains, Astrup said."

TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables.

"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?

Wonder if that means *all* carbs including the swell indigestible
fiber from veggies? It begins to make sense then. But just begins.

Pastorio

Too many people use the word "know" when they should use "believe".

In ,
Gregory Toomey stated
| http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm
|
| "The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and
| headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit,
| vegetables and whole grains, Astrup said."
|
| TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables.
|
| "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of
| carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body
| and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the
| Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase,
| then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body
| needs."
|
| Comments?
|
| gtomey

Too many people use the word "know" when they should use "believe".

In ,
Gregory Toomey stated
| http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm
|
| "The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and
| headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit,
| vegetables and whole grains, Astrup said."
|
| TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables.
|
| "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of
| carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body
| and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the
| Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase,
| then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body
| needs."
|
| Comments?
|
| gtomey

Too many people use the word "know" when they should use "believe".

In ,
Gregory Toomey stated
| http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm
|
| "The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and
| headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit,
| vegetables and whole grains, Astrup said."
|
| TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables.
|
| "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of
| carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body
| and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the
| Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase,
| then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body
| needs."
|
| Comments?
|
| gtomey

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote:

"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?

150gr is regarded as the safe and sustainable limit and is thus a
guideline for the entire populous. People are different.

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote:

"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?

150gr is regarded as the safe and sustainable limit and is thus a
guideline for the entire populous. People are different.