On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 21:57:28 +0200, Rune Børsjø
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote:

"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of
carbohydrate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet
you go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?

150gr is regarded as the safe and sustainable limit and is thus a
guideline for the entire populous. People are different.

People are different, but there has never been a study anywhere where the
people could not sustain the "normal function of [a] body" under 150 grams
of carbs per day.

--
Bob in CT
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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 21:57:28 +0200, Rune Børsjø
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote:

"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of
carbohydrate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet
you go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?

150gr is regarded as the safe and sustainable limit and is thus a
guideline for the entire populous. People are different.

People are different, but there has never been a study anywhere where the
people could not sustain the "normal function of [a] body" under 150 grams
of carbs per day.

--
Bob in CT
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Rune B=F8rsj=F8 wrote:
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote:
=20
"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohy=
drate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet yo=
u go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?
=20
150gr is regarded as the safe and sustainable limit and is thus a
guideline for the entire populous. People are different.

By whom is it "regarded as the safe and sustainable limit" for=20
everyone? Does it mean that we have to rush emergency carbs to the=20
Inuit? It's party-line opinion...

It's a silly standard with nothing behind it.

Pastorio

Rune B=F8rsj=F8 wrote:
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote:
=20
"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohy=
drate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet yo=
u go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?
=20
150gr is regarded as the safe and sustainable limit and is thus a
guideline for the entire populous. People are different.

By whom is it "regarded as the safe and sustainable limit" for=20
everyone? Does it mean that we have to rush emergency carbs to the=20
Inuit? It's party-line opinion...

It's a silly standard with nothing behind it.

Pastorio

Rune B=F8rsj=F8 wrote:
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote:
=20
"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohy=
drate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet yo=
u go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?
=20
150gr is regarded as the safe and sustainable limit and is thus a
guideline for the entire populous. People are different.

By whom is it "regarded as the safe and sustainable limit" for=20
everyone? Does it mean that we have to rush emergency carbs to the=20
Inuit? It's party-line opinion...

It's a silly standard with nothing behind it.

Pastorio

Rune B=F8rsj=F8 wrote:
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote:
=20
"We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohy=
drate
necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is
approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet yo=
u go
down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100
grams, still you are far below what your body needs."

Comments?
=20
150gr is regarded as the safe and sustainable limit and is thus a
guideline for the entire populous. People are different.

By whom is it "regarded as the safe and sustainable limit" for=20
everyone? Does it mean that we have to rush emergency carbs to the=20
Inuit? It's party-line opinion...

It's a silly standard with nothing behind it.

Pastorio

Gregory Toomey wrote:
| http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm

| "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of
| carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body
| and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the
| Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase,
| then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body
| needs."
|
| Comments?
|
| gtomey


As we know, it's pure fiction. There is no evidence -- none -- that our
bodies need any carbohydrates whatsoever to survive. The guy who wrote the
article is a nonsense-spouting idiot, plain and simple. In fact, exactly
the opposite is true. The Inuit Indians of Alaska have lived for
generations with no carbohdrates at all, just fish and whale blubber, and
have an extremely low rate of heart disease and diabetes. --
Peter

270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/wei...htlosspix.html

Gregory Toomey wrote:
| http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm

| "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of
| carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body
| and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the
| Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase,
| then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body
| needs."
|
| Comments?
|
| gtomey


As we know, it's pure fiction. There is no evidence -- none -- that our
bodies need any carbohydrates whatsoever to survive. The guy who wrote the
article is a nonsense-spouting idiot, plain and simple. In fact, exactly
the opposite is true. The Inuit Indians of Alaska have lived for
generations with no carbohdrates at all, just fish and whale blubber, and
have an extremely low rate of heart disease and diabetes. --
Peter

270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/wei...htlosspix.html

Gregory Toomey wrote:
| http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm

| "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of
| carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body
| and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the
| Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase,
| then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body
| needs."
|
| Comments?
|
| gtomey


As we know, it's pure fiction. There is no evidence -- none -- that our
bodies need any carbohydrates whatsoever to survive. The guy who wrote the
article is a nonsense-spouting idiot, plain and simple. In fact, exactly
the opposite is true. The Inuit Indians of Alaska have lived for
generations with no carbohdrates at all, just fish and whale blubber, and
have an extremely low rate of heart disease and diabetes. --
Peter

270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/wei...htlosspix.html

"Bob in CT" wrote

People are different, but there has never been a study anywhere where the
people could not sustain the "normal function of [a] body" under 150 grams
of carbs per day.

They just define the state of ketosis as not being part of "normal function"
I guess, based on the little shippet that was posted. What else is new? The
question is whether or not being in ketosis is a suboptimal way for the body
to function. There's always been a lot of disagreement on this, and no real
long-term studies on large western population groups. I think most of us
here are OK with it, if done in a healthy way.

HG