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Robochallenge September begins
Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003 I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper arm fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately, the body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price I'll have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is still to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36. Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures. I have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say, that once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They only reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it is conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few inches because they have reached minimum cell size. I'm going to try to take it off anyway. Cubit |
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264/243/218 month-start: 243 monthly-goal: 8 since 7/20/2005
Thanks for running this Cubit. I dunno if you are a Stone Temple Pilots fan, but to paraphrase Weiland in "Creep" "you're half the man you used to be." And that's gotta count for a lot when you're looking at three pant sizes and 5 lbs of middle. Good luck. If it can be done, I suspect you will do it. -Hollywood |
Well, actually, it is Delorie that does the Robochallenge. I was just
reminding people about it, and posting my data. "Max Hollywood Harris" wrote in message oups.com... 264/243/218 month-start: 243 monthly-goal: 8 since 7/20/2005 Thanks for running this Cubit. I dunno if you are a Stone Temple Pilots fan, but to paraphrase Weiland in "Creep" "you're half the man you used to be." And that's gotta count for a lot when you're looking at three pant sizes and 5 lbs of middle. Good luck. If it can be done, I suspect you will do it. -Hollywood |
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I'm impressed. I'm thinking though that you may have to go to 140 temporarily and then ease back up to your goal while sculpting your body to fit your ideal. On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:35:00 GMT, "Cubit" wrote: Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/ 311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003 I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper arm fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately, the body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price I'll have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is still to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36. Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures. I have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say, that once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They only reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it is conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few inches because they have reached minimum cell size. I'm going to try to take it off anyway. Cubit |
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:35:00 GMT, "Cubit" wrote:
Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/ 311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003 I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper arm fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately, the body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price I'll have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is still to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36. Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures. I have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say, that once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They only reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it is conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few inches because they have reached minimum cell size. I'm going to try to take it off anyway. Cubit Cubit - I vaguely recall seeing/hearing something similar about fat cells after a diet, and that was a lot of the reasoning behind lyposuction. More as a means to dispose of the brown fat cells than for weight reduction. I also remember going on a diet (quite awhile ago, too) where at the end, I had similar bulges remainging that only went away as I approached to within 4 lbs of my weight goal. In other words, my goal at the time was 142, and the remaing bulges didn't begin receding until I'd gotten under 146. Hopefully, I'll reexperience the same phenomina this coming spring. Keep us/me posted. bmcky Boston, MA |
Yours is the first report I have seen that suggest that dropping low enough
does, indeed, remove a lower belly bulge. 146 to 142 needs a context. Are you male? How tall are you? "bmcky" wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:35:00 GMT, "Cubit" wrote: Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/ 311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003 I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper arm fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately, the body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price I'll have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is still to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36. Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures. I have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say, that once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They only reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it is conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few inches because they have reached minimum cell size. I'm going to try to take it off anyway. Cubit Cubit - I vaguely recall seeing/hearing something similar about fat cells after a diet, and that was a lot of the reasoning behind lyposuction. More as a means to dispose of the brown fat cells than for weight reduction. I also remember going on a diet (quite awhile ago, too) where at the end, I had similar bulges remainging that only went away as I approached to within 4 lbs of my weight goal. In other words, my goal at the time was 142, and the remaing bulges didn't begin receding until I'd gotten under 146. Hopefully, I'll reexperience the same phenomina this coming spring. Keep us/me posted. bmcky Boston, MA |
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 14:46:12 GMT, "Cubit" wrote:
Yours is the first report I have seen that suggest that dropping low enough does, indeed, remove a lower belly bulge. 146 to 142 needs a context. Are you male? How tall are you? "bmcky" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:35:00 GMT, "Cubit" wrote: Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/ 311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003 I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper arm fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately, the body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price I'll have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is still to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36. Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures. I have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say, that once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They only reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it is conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few inches because they have reached minimum cell size. I'm going to try to take it off anyway. Cubit Cubit - I vaguely recall seeing/hearing something similar about fat cells after a diet, and that was a lot of the reasoning behind lyposuction. More as a means to dispose of the brown fat cells than for weight reduction. I also remember going on a diet (quite awhile ago, too) where at the end, I had similar bulges remainging that only went away as I approached to within 4 lbs of my weight goal. In other words, my goal at the time was 142, and the remaing bulges didn't begin receding until I'd gotten under 146. Hopefully, I'll reexperience the same phenomina this coming spring. Keep us/me posted. bmcky Boston, MA Hi Cubit - I'm a 5'6" male, and this was quite awhile ago. I'd forgotten all about it until I'd read your post and recalled how good that felt at the time. I could be wrong on the exact figure, but I distinctly remember that it was only after losing the 4 - 7 lbs or so, that made a difference in my own own waistline. Also, my max weight at that time was less than 170, so I don't there were that many brown cells to begin with. Assuming I make it back to around that level again, I'm going to seriously consider liposuction to remove those cells. Hang in there, you're so close to it now. :) bmcky Boston, MA bmcky |
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Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"??? -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
:: Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"??? Pay attention, dear! :) http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/ |
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"Roger Zoul" wrote: OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: :: Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"??? Pay attention, dear! :) http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/ Ah, a monthly goal challenge. ;-) Ok, once I get back in the "swing" of things, I might consider participating. In the meantime, I don't need the pressure! lol Cheers! Om 273/223/150 -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
In article , "Roger Zoul" wrote: OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: :: Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"??? Pay attention, dear! :) http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/ Ah, a monthly goal challenge. ;-) Ok, once I get back in the "swing" of things, I might consider participating. In the meantime, I don't need the pressure! lol Cheers! Om 273/223/150 I would think that it would be a snap with your current sadistic eating plan. It's working well for me anyway. Ryan |
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Ryan Case wrote: OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: In article , "Roger Zoul" wrote: OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: :: Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"??? Pay attention, dear! :) http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/ Ah, a monthly goal challenge. ;-) Ok, once I get back in the "swing" of things, I might consider participating. In the meantime, I don't need the pressure! lol Cheers! Om 273/223/150 I would think that it would be a snap with your current sadistic eating plan. You mean the protein fast? :-) That only works if you can stick with it...... lol I'm doing ok, but we shall see! I'll post numbers again at the end of October. It's working well for me anyway. Ryan Awesome! What meat are you eating? Chicken tits get expensive after awhile! -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
In article , Ryan Case wrote: OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: In article , "Roger Zoul" wrote: OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: :: Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"??? Pay attention, dear! :) http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/ Ah, a monthly goal challenge. ;-) Ok, once I get back in the "swing" of things, I might consider participating. In the meantime, I don't need the pressure! lol Cheers! Om 273/223/150 I would think that it would be a snap with your current sadistic eating plan. You mean the protein fast? :-) the lmmpsmf, right? Then, yeah, that's what I mean. That only works if you can stick with it...... lol I'm doing ok, but we shall see! I'll post numbers again at the end of October. I figure on starting to post numbers about then. It's working well for me anyway. Ryan Awesome! What meat are you eating? Chicken tits get expensive after awhile! I have a huge salad with a can or two of tuna for lunch almost every day of the week. At night, Cod, or Salmon, or Shrimp. I am finding my appetite is quickly dimenishing. Or chicken tits. Last night was diced checken tits with diced green and red bell peppers cooked in a very hot skillet with about an 1/8 teaspoon olive oil, and lemon juice and pepper. That and cucumber wedges. Breakfasts were the hard ones for me. In fact I submitted to Cohen yesterday that "ebh" be a new MFW abbreviation for Egg-beater hate. This morning I rinsed a can of smoked muscles under hot water and mixed them into a cup and a half of ff cottage cheese. That was breakfast. I think that I will smoke some salmon this weekend for next weeks breakfasts. Oh, late night wanting munchies were hard too, but DC suggested celery as a substitute for chips with salsa. That rocks. On the weekends I pretty much live off protien shakes during the day, and normal diet dinners. Vanilla with a lot of Cinamon added. That way I get a break from the foods I am eating all week. My only real falter so far was a piece of cheese at my mom's last Sunday. I am an absolute cheese fanatic and she had a sharp/bleu/sharp wedge that she had bought. I had about and 1/8th of an ounce. Ryan |
Update. Almost there. Just another half lb by Thursday and, in the
words of St. Louis legend Michael McDonald, "Yamobedere" Hollywood 264/235.5/218 month-start: 243 monthly-goal: 8 |
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Ryan Case wrote: OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: Awesome! What meat are you eating? Chicken tits get expensive after awhile! I have a huge salad with a can or two of tuna for lunch almost every day of the week. At night, Cod, or Salmon, or Shrimp. I am finding my appetite is quickly dimenishing. Or chicken tits. Last night was diced checken tits with diced green and red bell peppers cooked in a very hot skillet with about an 1/8 teaspoon olive oil, and lemon juice and pepper. That and cucumber wedges. Ah! More fish! I prefer canned tuna with lots of mayo which is forbidden. :-( I'd love to figure out a way to make a GOOD tuna salad sans fat! Even grilled catfish is too high in fat. I prolly need to purchase some pollack fillets. Shrimp is pricey so is reserved for treats. Maybe once per week. Wish I could afford alligator. Chicken tits are my staple right now. Grilled and sliced, served with various low fat treatments. Breakfasts were the hard ones for me. In fact I submitted to Cohen yesterday that "ebh" be a new MFW abbreviation for Egg-beater hate. Eggbeaters are a PITA. Eggwhite omelets should work with sufficient flavorings of some sort. I've not messed with it yet. Maybe Tuna or shrimp and fat free cheese. And dill, and celery. This morning I rinsed a can of smoked muscles under hot water and mixed them into a cup and a half of ff cottage cheese. That was breakfast. I think that I will smoke some salmon this weekend for next weeks breakfasts. Salmon is not low fat. I may have to try canned clams, rinsed to get the oil off. Those smoked cans of stuff are yummy! Check out the canned smoked octopus. Oh, late night wanting munchies were hard too, but DC suggested celery as a substitute for chips with salsa. That rocks. Yeah! I love celery. On the weekends I pretty much live off protien shakes during the day, and normal diet dinners. Vanilla with a lot of Cinamon added. That way I get a break from the foods I am eating all week. I'm trying to avoid shakes. I don't respond well to Splenda for some reason. My only real falter so far was a piece of cheese at my mom's last Sunday. I am an absolute cheese fanatic and she had a sharp/bleu/sharp wedge that she had bought. I had about and 1/8th of an ounce. Heh! My weakness is good brie...... Ryan -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
In article , Ryan Case wrote: OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: Awesome! What meat are you eating? Chicken tits get expensive after awhile! I have a huge salad with a can or two of tuna for lunch almost every day of the week. At night, Cod, or Salmon, or Shrimp. I am finding my appetite is quickly dimenishing. Or chicken tits. Last night was diced checken tits with diced green and red bell peppers cooked in a very hot skillet with about an 1/8 teaspoon olive oil, and lemon juice and pepper. That and cucumber wedges. Ah! More fish! I prefer canned tuna with lots of mayo which is forbidden. :-( I didn't eat mayo or ketchup before this. Don't care for either, so no problem here. Try mustard and cottage cheese. I'd love to figure out a way to make a GOOD tuna salad sans fat! Even grilled catfish is too high in fat. I prolly need to purchase some pollack fillets. Shrimp is pricey so is reserved for treats. Maybe once per week. Wish I could afford alligator. Yeah, but we are actually saving money eating this way. Dunno how, but we are. Probably the not eating out part. Chicken tits are my staple right now. Grilled and sliced, served with various low fat treatments. Breakfasts were the hard ones for me. In fact I submitted to Cohen yesterday that "ebh" be a new MFW abbreviation for Egg-beater hate. Eggbeaters are a PITA. Eggwhite omelets should work with sufficient flavorings of some sort. I've not messed with it yet. Maybe Tuna or shrimp and fat free cheese. Have done tuna omelets, have done jalepeno, have done ff cheese. Something about eggs everyday. After about a week the thought of them makes me want to gag. And dill, and celery. This morning I rinsed a can of smoked muscles under hot water and mixed them into a cup and a half of ff cottage cheese. That was breakfast. I think that I will smoke some salmon this weekend for next weeks breakfasts. Salmon is not low fat. But check to see which fats are in it. Aren't they the good ones? The book says to eat oily fish. Maybe I am mistaken on this one. I haven't had any since starting this, only cod, but was looking forward to it. I may have to try canned clams, rinsed to get the oil off. Those smoked cans of stuff are yummy! Check out the canned smoked octopus. Oh, late night wanting munchies were hard too, but DC suggested celery as a substitute for chips with salsa. That rocks. Yeah! I love celery. On the weekends I pretty much live off protien shakes during the day, and normal diet dinners. Vanilla with a lot of Cinamon added. That way I get a break from the foods I am eating all week. I'm trying to avoid shakes. I don't respond well to Splenda for some reason. Hmmm, dunno if I could be doing it without that weekend feeling of splurging on shakes. My only real falter so far was a piece of cheese at my mom's last Sunday. I am an absolute cheese fanatic and she had a sharp/bleu/sharp wedge that she had bought. I had about and 1/8th of an ounce. Heh! My weakness is good brie...... Damn you, why would you mention that? I even enjoy a bad one. Ryan |
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Ryan Case wrote: OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: In article , Ryan Case wrote: OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: Awesome! What meat are you eating? Chicken tits get expensive after awhile! I have a huge salad with a can or two of tuna for lunch almost every day of the week. At night, Cod, or Salmon, or Shrimp. I am finding my appetite is quickly dimenishing. Or chicken tits. Last night was diced checken tits with diced green and red bell peppers cooked in a very hot skillet with about an 1/8 teaspoon olive oil, and lemon juice and pepper. That and cucumber wedges. Ah! More fish! I prefer canned tuna with lots of mayo which is forbidden. :-( I didn't eat mayo or ketchup before this. Don't care for either, so no problem here. Try mustard and cottage cheese. I'm not a big ketchup or mustard fan, but I LOVE mayo. :-( Mustard is more something I cook with than a condiment. Cottage cheese is wonderful, but I can't lose weight on it. Don't know why, maybe too many carbs in the form if Lactose? I'd love to figure out a way to make a GOOD tuna salad sans fat! Even grilled catfish is too high in fat. I prolly need to purchase some pollack fillets. Shrimp is pricey so is reserved for treats. Maybe once per week. Wish I could afford alligator. Yeah, but we are actually saving money eating this way. Dunno how, but we are. Probably the not eating out part. I eat out maybe once every couple of months or less. ;-) I think it's just because I'm eating LESS. Chicken tits are my staple right now. Grilled and sliced, served with various low fat treatments. Breakfasts were the hard ones for me. In fact I submitted to Cohen yesterday that "ebh" be a new MFW abbreviation for Egg-beater hate. Eggbeaters are a PITA. Eggwhite omelets should work with sufficient flavorings of some sort. I've not messed with it yet. Maybe Tuna or shrimp and fat free cheese. Have done tuna omelets, have done jalepeno, have done ff cheese. Something about eggs everyday. After about a week the thought of them makes me want to gag. I know what you mean. Without the yolks, what's the point? That's where all the flavor is! And dill, and celery. This morning I rinsed a can of smoked muscles under hot water and mixed them into a cup and a half of ff cottage cheese. That was breakfast. I think that I will smoke some salmon this weekend for next weeks breakfasts. Salmon is not low fat. But check to see which fats are in it. Aren't they the good ones? The book says to eat oily fish. Maybe I am mistaken on this one. I haven't had any since starting this, only cod, but was looking forward to it. That is a good point actually. Just watch your serving size. I may have to try canned clams, rinsed to get the oil off. Those smoked cans of stuff are yummy! Check out the canned smoked octopus. Oh, late night wanting munchies were hard too, but DC suggested celery as a substitute for chips with salsa. That rocks. Yeah! I love celery. On the weekends I pretty much live off protien shakes during the day, and normal diet dinners. Vanilla with a lot of Cinamon added. That way I get a break from the foods I am eating all week. I'm trying to avoid shakes. I don't respond well to Splenda for some reason. Hmmm, dunno if I could be doing it without that weekend feeling of splurging on shakes. I don't have that big of a sweet tooth. Not for many years. My only real falter so far was a piece of cheese at my mom's last Sunday. I am an absolute cheese fanatic and she had a sharp/bleu/sharp wedge that she had bought. I had about and 1/8th of an ounce. Heh! My weakness is good brie...... Damn you, why would you mention that? I even enjoy a bad one. You started it. ;-) You said "cheese". lol Cheers! Ryan -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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Saffire wrote: In article , says... I'm not a big ketchup or mustard fan, but I LOVE mayo. :-( Me too! For a couple of days now I've been eating cucumber, green onion, tomato and cheese in a little salad (that's all I've had time (or room -- the kitchen is still mostly boxed up) to prepare as far as veggies go) with a couple of tablespoons of mayo -- heavenly! Normally I would only have 1 tbl, but my calories have been pretty low with my hectic moving situation, so I'm actually trying to keep my calories UP. For so many, MANY years I've kept my mayo use to a minimum because of all the fat hype, and it wasn't particularly special to me, anyway. HOWEVER, after starting low-carb and having it one day with asparagus (the ONLY way to eat asparagus as far as *I'M* concerned, I realized how much I really LIKE mayo -- it has a GREAT taste and reminds me of when I was a kid when I used mayo with abandon and nary a thought as to whether or not it would be fattening :-) Now, as with so MANY things I eat, I have a true appreciation for it that I no longer take for granted. I like it better than regular salad dressing. Actually, I like a lot of things better than traditional salad dressing -- for instance, I like to use alfredo sauce instead. Normally, I don't worry about fat and have lost weight on a high fat diet... but things have REALLY slowed down for me and it's frustrating! So I/we are trying a low calorie, low fat modified protein fast. It's more of a challenge, but easier than a fat fast! More food. ;-) -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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