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[email protected] September 10th, 2004 05:25 PM

All sugars the same? Natural and man made?
 
Are the sugars that exist in fruits the same molecular
make up as say man made sugars such as hugh fructose
corn syrup, etc?

Bottom line.... are natural sugars any better for you
than man made sugars?

JK@work September 10th, 2004 07:53 PM


wrote in message
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Are the sugars that exist in fruits the same molecular
make up as say man made sugars such as hugh fructose
corn syrup, etc?

Bottom line.... are natural sugars any better for you
than man made sugars?


Sugar is carbs whether from an orange or a chocolate bar or a slice of
bread. You body doesn't know the difference.

*50 bs permanently off for 6 years on Atkins.

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
http://www.sinrodstudios.com/
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories/



JK@work September 10th, 2004 07:53 PM


wrote in message
...
Are the sugars that exist in fruits the same molecular
make up as say man made sugars such as hugh fructose
corn syrup, etc?

Bottom line.... are natural sugars any better for you
than man made sugars?


Sugar is carbs whether from an orange or a chocolate bar or a slice of
bread. You body doesn't know the difference.

*50 bs permanently off for 6 years on Atkins.

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
http://www.sinrodstudios.com/
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories/



Pat September 10th, 2004 09:07 PM


wrote Are the sugars that exist in fruits the same
molecular
make up as say man made sugars such as hugh fructose
corn syrup, etc?

Bottom line.... are natural sugars any better for you
than man made sugars?



"man made sugars"?? don't you mean something different? Corn syrup is not
"man made" if it comes from corn, after all. Besides, different sugars have
slightly different chemical constructions that make them more/less likely to
affect people in a certain way. I guess you could call Honey a "bee made
sugar".....

Pat in TX



The Queen of Cans and Jars September 10th, 2004 09:33 PM

wrote:

Are the sugars that exist in fruits the same molecular
make up as say man made sugars such as hugh fructose
corn syrup, etc?

Bottom line.... are natural sugars any better for you
than man made sugars?


it depends.

The Queen of Cans and Jars September 10th, 2004 09:33 PM

wrote:

Are the sugars that exist in fruits the same molecular
make up as say man made sugars such as hugh fructose
corn syrup, etc?

Bottom line.... are natural sugars any better for you
than man made sugars?


it depends.

Skinny September 11th, 2004 02:30 AM

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:25:15 -0500, wrote:

Are the sugars that exist in fruits the same molecular
make up as say man made sugars such as hugh fructose
corn syrup, etc?

Bottom line.... are natural sugars any better for you
than man made sugars?



It may depend on whether it matters to you how FAST the glucose is
absorbed. Some sweeteners with the same amount of glucose/carbs are
absorbed much slower than others. (And glycerin/glycerol does not require
insulin for absorbtion, which may matter to diabetics and hypoglycemics.)

Also some are sweeter than others, for the same amount of carbs/glucose.

Some of the new 'sugar alcohols' may act as laxatives or worse with some
people.

Here's more info and leads:

http://www.lowcarb.ca/tips/tips010.html
balanced article on sugar alcohols

http://www.mendosa.com/netcarbs.htm
Dr. Atkins and the vendors of low-carb products are correct that not only
fiber but also glycerin and polydextrose have little or no effect on blood
glucose. The story with sugar alcohols, however, is different. One of the
most commonly used sugar alcohols, maltitol and its syrups, does have a
considerable effect on blood glucose. Two sugar alcohols, erythritol and
mannitol, have no effect, and four others have some effect.


Calorie comparison

4.3 calories per gram glycerol/glycerine
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ne&btnG=Search

4.0 calories per gram white sugar
http://www.google.com/search?q=calor...utf-8&oe=utf-8

3.0 calories per gram hydrogenated starch hydrolysates
2.6 calories per gram sorbitol
2.4 calories per gram xylitol
2.1 calories per gram maltitol
2.0 calories per gram isomalt
2.0 calories per gram lactitol
1.6 calories per gram mannitol
0.2 calories per gram erythritol
http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support...rbDieting.htms


Glycemic Load (ie, effect on BG level soon after eating)

18 for Honey (Canada)[GR]
11 for Maltose[GR]
10 for Glucose/Dextrose/normal sugar[GR]
7 for 99% Malitol product[GR]
5 for Lactose[GR]
2 for Fructose[GR]
1 for Xylitol[GR]

0 for Glycerol/Gylcerine[M]
0 for Polydextrose[M]

Sources:
[GR] GI /GL tables in THE NEW GLUCOSE REVOLUTION, p. 319
[M] http://www.mendosa.com/netcarbs.htm


Skinny

Aramanth Dawe September 11th, 2004 02:55 AM

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:25:15 -0500, wrote:

Are the sugars that exist in fruits the same molecular
make up as say man made sugars such as hugh fructose
corn syrup, etc?

Bottom line.... are natural sugars any better for you
than man made sugars?


Sugar is sugar. However, 'natural' sugars such as those found in
fruits, eaten in moderation WHILE STILL IN THE FRUIT and therefore
packaged with the vitamins, minerals and fibre content of the fruit,
are certainly better than the same sugar extracted and used in large
quantites in some frankenfood.

After all, 'refined' table sugar, while not the best thing in the
world for most of us in quantity, is a 'natural' sugar, being the
evaporated juice of sugar cane which has been cleaned of impurities.

Aramanth

Martin Golding September 11th, 2004 03:31 AM

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:07:51 -0500, Pat wrote:


wrote Are the sugars that exist in fruits the same
molecular
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"man made sugars"?? don't you mean something different? Corn syrup is not
"man made" if it comes from corn, after all.


It is, actually. The corn starches are converted to fructose in factories.
No less (or more) "man made" than MSG.


[...] I guess you could call Honey a "bee made sugar".....


Flower made, to be fair. The bees collect the nectar and concentrate it,
but don't change it chemically.

Martin (215/165 since 4/2003, 165 since 4/2004)
--
If there were a God, cocoa butter would be monounsaturated. (me)
With enough butter & garlic, I could make anything taste good! (Rick McKee)
Vancouver, WA


Steve Knight September 11th, 2004 05:49 AM


"man made sugars"?? don't you mean something different? Corn syrup is not
"man made" if it comes from corn, after all. Besides, different sugars have
slightly different chemical constructions that make them more/less likely to
affect people in a certain way. I guess you could call Honey a "bee made
sugar".....


corn is manmade. it never existed in the wild. high fructose corn syrup is
starting to show some bad health problems.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.


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