Thank you Burger King and McDonalds!
 

After being iced in at home near Charlotte since the weekend, today I
finally was able to drive the 300 miles back to work in Emporia, VA.

By noon I was on I-85 about 1/2 way to my destination; I hadn't eaten
anything yet today. So I decided to give Burger King's low-carb menu a
shot. I pulled off at an exit that had a BK, went in and ordered a Chicken
Whopper with cheese, low-carb style. It came in a plastic bowl with fork
and knife - a nice-sized grilled chicken breast with melted cheese, lettuce
and tomato; I skipped the mayo at lunchime (I'm watching calories for now
also). It was absolutely delicious and filling enough for me.

I got to work about 2 p.m., and was immediately swamped after having been
out of the office for a couple of days. After having driven 5 hours, then
working for several hours, I didn't feel like cooking dinner. So I went to
McDonalds and got a grilled Chicken Bacon salad with Newman's Ranch
dressing. I used 1-1/2 packets of the dressing. I was hungry, and it
tasted wondeful to me and was exactly the right amount to satisfy me without
pigging out.

Both meals were under $5.00 each.

Before you "purists" start hollering about "junk food," nothing at all that
I ate today from these restarurants was junk food. Grilled chicken breasts
and vegetables and cheese. Even the Newman's Ranch Dressing from Mickey D's
has natural ingredients.

From BK's and McD's websites** I got the nutritional breakdown of the meals
I ate and plugged them into Fitday. I was thrilled to find that what I ate
fit *exactly* with my current low-carb eating plan. I am paying special
attention to keeping the ratios balanced, this seems to keep my weight loss
steady -- I keep fats as 70 - 75% of total calories, and protein as 20 -
25%. The carbs take care of themselves with these ratios.

** (I do want to mention that BK had the calorie count wrong for the
lc-style Chicken Whopper. They listed it as 155 calories, but when I
entered the ingredients in Fitday it came to 396 calories which seems more
reasonable. I went with Fitday's calculations).

This is the total breakdown according to Fitday of these two "fast food"
meals

Calories: 1195
Fat: 94g (72% of calories)
Protein 69g (23% of total calories)
Carbohydrates: 18 (5% of total calories)

This is absolutely perfect for my weight loss plan, and leaves me room for a
nice snack this evening. I'm so happy that the low-carb way of eating has
finally made an impact on the fast food industry. A few months ago I would
have had to stop on the highway, order a burger and been frustrated as heck
trying to separate the cheese off of the bun so I could throw away the
bread. Now there are many choices (including Subway's wraps which happen to
fit perfectly into my plan also).

Let the cynics say what they want about the low-carb foods now being offered
by the restaurants; they are free to drive right by if that's what they want
to do. But it's a lifesaver to someone who travels or works long hours, and
there is absolutely nothing unwholesome about the food that I was able to
order and eat.

--
Peter
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

Thank you Burger King and McDonalds!
 

I agree. Also, I heard someone talking on the stock market report,
saying that all this Atkins stuff was the reason that Kraft is having to
lay off people, saying that Kraft is into biscuits and things big time.
He then went on to say that "this will pass" as all fads do, since
people have to have their cookies. LOL Anyway, the lady that was
co-hosting said when you see all these Atkins friendly things going on
in commercials and things, she doesn't think it's going to pass any time
soon. I'm really glad that the foodmakers are responding. It's making
life a lot easier for a lot of diabetics too. :-)

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.

marengo wrote in message ...
After being iced in at home near Charlotte since the weekend, today I
finally was able to drive the 300 miles back to work in Emporia, VA.

By noon I was on I-85 about 1/2 way to my destination; I hadn't eaten
anything yet today. So I decided to give Burger King's low-carb menu a
shot. I pulled off at an exit that had a BK, went in and ordered a
Chicken
Whopper with cheese, low-carb style. It came in a plastic bowl with
fork
and knife - a nice-sized grilled chicken breast with melted cheese,
lettuce
and tomato; I skipped the mayo at lunchime (I'm watching calories for
now
also). It was absolutely delicious and filling enough for me.

I got to work about 2 p.m., and was immediately swamped after having
been
out of the office for a couple of days. After having driven 5 hours,
then
working for several hours, I didn't feel like cooking dinner. So I
went to
McDonalds and got a grilled Chicken Bacon salad with Newman's Ranch
dressing. I used 1-1/2 packets of the dressing. I was hungry, and it
tasted wondeful to me and was exactly the right amount to satisfy me
without
pigging out.

Both meals were under $5.00 each.

Before you "purists" start hollering about "junk food," nothing at all
that
I ate today from these restarurants was junk food. Grilled chicken
breasts
and vegetables and cheese. Even the Newman's Ranch Dressing from
Mickey D's
has natural ingredients.

From BK's and McD's websites** I got the nutritional breakdown of the
meals
I ate and plugged them into Fitday. I was thrilled to find that what I
ate
fit *exactly* with my current low-carb eating plan. I am paying
special
attention to keeping the ratios balanced, this seems to keep my weight
loss
steady -- I keep fats as 70 - 75% of total calories, and protein as
20 -
25%. The carbs take care of themselves with these ratios.

** (I do want to mention that BK had the calorie count wrong for the
lc-style Chicken Whopper. They listed it as 155 calories, but when I
entered the ingredients in Fitday it came to 396 calories which seems
more
reasonable. I went with Fitday's calculations).

This is the total breakdown according to Fitday of these two "fast
food"
meals

Calories: 1195
Fat: 94g (72% of calories)
Protein 69g (23% of total calories)
Carbohydrates: 18 (5% of total calories)

This is absolutely perfect for my weight loss plan, and leaves me room
for a
nice snack this evening. I'm so happy that the low-carb way of eating
has
finally made an impact on the fast food industry. A few months ago I
would
have had to stop on the highway, order a burger and been frustrated as
heck
trying to separate the cheese off of the bun so I could throw away the
bread. Now there are many choices (including Subway's wraps which
happen to
fit perfectly into my plan also).

Let the cynics say what they want about the low-carb foods now being
offered
by the restaurants; they are free to drive right by if that's what they
want
to do. But it's a lifesaver to someone who travels or works long hours,
and
there is absolutely nothing unwholesome about the food that I was able
to
order and eat.

--
Peter
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

Thank you Burger King and McDonalds!
 

Cheri wrote:

I agree. Also, I heard someone talking on the stock market report,
saying that all this Atkins stuff was the reason that Kraft is having to
lay off people, saying that Kraft is into biscuits and things big time.
He then went on to say that "this will pass" as all fads do, since
people have to have their cookies. LOL Anyway, the lady that was
co-hosting said when you see all these Atkins friendly things going on
in commercials and things, she doesn't think it's going to pass any time
soon. I'm really glad that the foodmakers are responding. It's making
life a lot easier for a lot of diabetics too. :-)

It seems like I am see more evidence of this every time I am in
the stores. Yesterday, at Barnes & Noble, I saw half of the table
that usually holds new cookbooks is now devoted to LC cookbooks,
as is an endcap on a cooking aisle. My browsing was cut short by
snow yesterday, so I am aiming at looking around some more today.

--
Jean B.

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Ignoramus25969 wrote:

I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk
food.

Which other purists did you have in mind?

To me, that is one of the problems with scorning junk food.
People's definitions seem to vary, although they would probably
overlap at some point.
--
Jean B.

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I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk
food.

Which other purists did you have in mind?

You forgot the (Cue Doughboy) at the end of that question. :)

I also don't consider it junk food. As long as it is a 'normal' beef patty
or chicken breast like you could make yourself at home, I don't consider it
junk food. Take that 'low carb style' meal that the OP poster and put it on
a 'low carb' bun (that I'm sure these places are trying to develop) and I
consider it junk food.

I consider "Atkins" Wraps at subway junkfood because someone went out of
their way to create a product that is fooling the consumer into thinking
he's eating something that he's not allowed to. Take all of the fillings
out of the 'low carb' wrap and I don't consider it junk food.

-Dough

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In article ,
Ignoramus17478 wrote:

In article , Jean B. wrote:
Ignoramus25969 wrote:

I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk
food.

Which other purists did you have in mind?

To me, that is one of the problems with scorning junk food.
People's definitions seem to vary, although they would probably
overlap at some point.

To me, junk food is snack stuff in boxes and packages, as well as
sweets. If I thought long and hard, I could produce a better
definition, but I think that what I just wrote is fairly clear.

As far as McDonalds goes, it sells okay food, bad food, and very
little what I call junk food. I ate at McDonalds recently (chicken
nuggets) and did not like them. Which does not mean that I consider
them junk food. McDonalds food is actually relatively wholesome, sans
for deep fried stuff. You could do well by drinking milk sold at MCD,
eating their salads and hamburgers, keeping an eye on quantity.

i

Chicken nuggets are pretty high-carb. You can make low-carb ones at home
using crushed pork rinds as the crust. I use the spicy ones, some people
add more seasonings. It uses quite a bit of pork rinds, a lot of oil,
makes a mess, takes some time, but it's worth it! The nuggets are VERY
filling, imo, and the tastiest, crunchiest nuggets I've ever had. I like
'em dipped in ranch dressing.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Thank you Burger King and McDonalds!
 

Ignoramus17478 wrote:

To me, junk food is snack stuff in boxes and packages, as well as
sweets. If I thought long and hard, I could produce a better
definition, but I think that what I just wrote is fairly clear.

As far as McDonalds goes, it sells okay food, bad food, and very
little what I call junk food. I ate at McDonalds recently (chicken
nuggets) and did not like them. Which does not mean that I consider
them junk food. McDonalds food is actually relatively wholesome, sans
for deep fried stuff. You could do well by drinking milk sold at MCD,
eating their salads and hamburgers, keeping an eye on quantity.

i

Thanks for the clarification, i.

--
Jean B.

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Jean B. wrote:

Ignoramus25969 wrote:

I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk
food.

Which other purists did you have in mind?

To me, that is one of the problems with scorning junk food.
People's definitions seem to vary, although they would probably
overlap at some point.

I'm of the opinion that McDonalds "in general" is junk.

However, one can always order the few items on there that
have nutritional merit. I'm one of those who people might dub
a "food purist", but if you can find good food at a junk restaurant
then that's a redeeming quality.

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Ignoramus25969 wrote:
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|
| I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk
| food.
|
| Which other purists did you have in mind?
|

Actually, there are several "purists" here in the ASDLC newsgroup; I used to
be one of the militant ones myself! (just the basics, meat and veggies).
;-) I still think that the Atkins bars et. al. have the texture, taste
and nutritional value of horse boogers (not that I've ever tasted horse
boogers).

But I try to keep an open mind, and I don't automatically rule out the newer
low-carb foods that are coming out as junk food without giving them a
chance, or at least checking out the nutritional value and/or ongredients.
As long as I can eat something and stay within (a) my daily carb limit, (b)
my dail calorie goals, and (c) my fat to protein ratio, then I consider it
to be edible food. I've found several great items from the fast-food chains
that meet my criteria, and am very happy about that :)
--
Peter
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

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"Ignoramus17478" wrote in message
...

To me, junk food is snack stuff in boxes and packages, as well as
sweets. If I thought long and hard, I could produce a better
definition, but I think that what I just wrote is fairly clear.

So then, by your definition, Wasa Fiber Rye is a junk food?