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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_8_] May 9th, 2009 11:36 PM

Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds'
 
MU wrote:
The Master wrote:
Anthony Allende wrote:

She looks better big. Skinny Kirstie is NOT attractive... However, her
gaining the weight back only adds to the evidence that the weight lost by
dieting is only temporary. Once you stop dieting, the weight comes back.
And who wants to diet the rest of their life?

Don't be stupid. You can lose weight and keep it off by eating sensibly.


Sensibly, eh? Always looking after what you eat,


Don't do it.

monitoring calorie
intake,


Useless, inaccurate, waste of time.

making sure you eat the veggies instead of the cake, stuff like
that? People like calling it a "lifestyle change", when it reality it's
nothing but a glorified diet...


Eating down to 2PD for most everyone includes viewing food for what it
is, a necessity not a fanciful way of living. So, yes, a lifestyle
change for most everyone.

The moment you STOP monitoring your calorie intake, the moment you STOP
concentrating on exactly what you are putting into your body, the monent
you STOP dieting, you return to your old ways, as shown by Kirstie...


Long term weight loss through dieting means a long term diet.


Or would you call it proper consumption v.s. long term overconsumption.
The labeling should be on the abnormal lifestyle not returning to the
normal one.


What keeps folks from readily seeing the truth about the amount they
are eating is their delusion that "hunger is starvation:"

http://HelpStampOutHunger.com

Love in the truth,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

Only GOD can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...915cc6cd0e47e?


[email protected] May 10th, 2009 12:54 AM

Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds'
 
Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice


All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which does not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.

God bless.

Kaz Kylheku May 10th, 2009 03:24 AM

Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds'
 
On 2009-05-09, wrote:
Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic.


What flaws does it have that can't be rectified by any earnest dieter
who has two brain cells to rub together?

It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does


Evidence?

not flow from evidence based on research.


I found a paper documenting a study according to which, two pounds of food
corresponds to a roughly good dieting amount of calories. The study followed
more than 80,000 Europeans found that the women ate, on average, at a caloric
density of 1.4 kcal/g, and men at 1.9 kcal/g. Multiply that by two pounds (907
g) and you have some reasonable caloric figures for dieting.

The diet inventor


.... is who precisely? You wouldn't be claiming anything so ridiculous as that
Chung is the originator of the idea of restricting food intake by mass?

has many
times been appraised of his flaws


Ad hominem fallacy: ``Food-mass-controlled diet is advocated by loonie, so it
must be a loonie diet.''

If Chung started to openly promote breathing, would you stop?

All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research.


What agenda fitting?

Exactly how does he profit if someone decides to eat two pounds of food a day?

Maybe he owns stock in a corporation that makes kitchen scales?

I already have an electronic scale, though I don't use it this way.
I could go on a two pound diet without spending a cent.

MU May 10th, 2009 06:37 PM

Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds'
 
On 09 May 2009 23:54:37 GMT, wrote:

Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda


Lie:

It would do you well if you wish to troll Chung to at least get your
facts straight. The 2PD came after watching a movie where mountaineers
ate at or less than 2 lbs per day. They not only survived their climb of
Mt. Everest, they were in great health in spite of it.

duh is simple.
--
http://tinyurl.com/5gt7

MU May 10th, 2009 06:39 PM

Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds'
 
On 09 May 2009 23:54:37 GMT, wrote:

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which does not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.


Such as who? Jenny Craig? She has a scientific diet. Which doesn't work.
WW? Scientific failure. Atkins, heck, he most probably dies due to his
diet. his heart runneth over with disease.

So who is it that *you* listen to?

duh is simple.
--
http://tinyurl.com/5gt7

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_2_] May 11th, 2009 05:18 AM

Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds'
 
MU wrote:
an anonymous deceiver despairingly posted:

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which does not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.


Such as who? Jenny Craig? She has a scientific diet. Which doesn't work.
WW? Scientific failure. Atkins, heck, he most probably dies due to his
diet. his heart runneth over with disease.

So who is it that *you* listen to?


He only listens to himself as he deceives others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...379f6c69b4310?

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier :-)

Love in the truth,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

Only GOD can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...915cc6cd0e47e?

out with a bang May 11th, 2009 05:31 AM

Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds'
 
On May 11, 12:18*am, "Andrew B. Chung" wrote:
MU wrote:
an anonymous deceiver despairingly posted:


Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which does not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.


Such as who? Jenny Craig? She has a scientific diet. Which doesn't work..
WW? Scientific failure. Atkins, heck, he most probably dies due to his
diet. his heart runneth over with disease.


So who is it that *you* listen to?


He only listens to himself as he deceives others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...379f6c69b4310?

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier :-)

Love in the truth,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung
Board-certified Lunatic


Dr. Johnny Hunt sends his regards.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD May 11th, 2009 05:39 AM

Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds'
 
an anonymous deceiver wrote:

Board-certified Lunatic


That you a

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...379f6c69b4310?

You will soon be out with a splash in the lake of fire being prepared
for you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ed2ca868902b1?

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as
GOD desires:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c33efe51560d7?



"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...27d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...81567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

.... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...1e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...0d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

.... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew
--
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c93540862751c?

What does Jesus want (WDJW) ?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...94899724b810d?

out with a bang May 11th, 2009 05:52 AM

Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds'
 
On May 11, 12:39*am, "Andrew B. Chung" wrote:
You will soon be out with a splash in the lake of fire being prepared
for you:


Funny, I've been laughing at you for three years and I haven't seen
this magical lake yet.

Go play with your sword.

worldfitnessgym December 10th, 2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD[_8_] (Post 420249)
MU wrote:
The Master wrote:
Anthony Allende wrote:

She looks better big. Skinny Kirstie is NOT attractive... However, her
gaining the weight back only adds to the evidence that the weight lost by
dieting is only temporary. Once you stop dieting, the weight comes back.
And who wants to diet the rest of their life?

Don't be stupid. You can lose weight and keep it off by eating sensibly.


Sensibly, eh? Always looking after what you eat,


Don't do it.

monitoring calorie
intake,


Useless, inaccurate, waste of time.

making sure you eat the veggies instead of the cake, stuff like
that? People like calling it a "lifestyle change", when it reality it's
nothing but a glorified diet...


Eating down to 2PD for most everyone includes viewing food for what it
is, a necessity not a fanciful way of living. So, yes, a lifestyle
change for most everyone.

The moment you STOP monitoring your calorie intake, the moment you STOP
concentrating on exactly what you are putting into your body, the monent
you STOP dieting, you return to your old ways, as shown by Kirstie...


Long term weight loss through dieting means a long term diet.


Or would you call it proper consumption v.s. long term overconsumption.
The labeling should be on the abnormal lifestyle not returning to the
normal one.


What keeps folks from readily seeing the truth about the amount they
are eating is their delusion that "hunger is starvation:"

http://HelpStampOutHunger.com

Love in the truth,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

Only GOD can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...915cc6cd0e47e?

Thank you for this Interesting Fact. I am totally Agree with you.


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