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Jean B. January 9th, 2004 04:24 PM

Z-bars (was Can anyone recommand a good tasting cereal?
 
Jenny wrote:

Jean,

There were two 7-11s in a town I drove through yesterday, Sunderland MA.
One had them, the other didn't.

I tried a second piece of the Zcarb bar last night and had pretty much the
same experience. Something about that "cooling" taste that comes with sugar
alcohols sparks off a hunger response in me and makes me want to eat more.
I've noticed this before with the Ross chocolates. Since I really don't need
180 calories of extra stuff in my daily plan right now (I'm balancing out
the excesses of Christmas week by eating very modestly) the carbs aren't as
much as an issue for me as the calories so the Lindt 70% square is a better
treat value for me.

Needless to say if you wanted to eat three square of chocolate rather than
one, and could handle the 180 calories, the Zcarb bar would be useful. As
advertised it doesn't seem to cause a sugar spike. The carbs in the Lindt
are higher--about 4 grams and only allow for eating one square. But for some
reason I find the Lindt 70% extremely satisfying in a way no other chocolate
is. And after eating it I don't feel like I need to eat any more chocolate
which is rarely the case with other chocolates. (Don't ask me the details of
the Christmas week excesses but the "Chocolate" played a major part in them.
g)


I guess I have to figure out the trade-offs, assuming I find the
things. I looked for the Z-bars Sunday before last, so maybe they
have come in since then.

Maybe it is good that I can only have chocolate once a week at the
very most (otherwise, I get headaches). I like a pretty dark
chocolate, which can be good from a carb point of view--if I go
with the real thing.

I guess the things that have to be considered a

flavor and mouthfeel (which = satisfaction)
carbs
calories

I wonder why that cooling effect causes you to want more? Do you
sense that with ALL sugar alcohols? The only one I've seen people
comment on in that regard is erythritol.

--
Jean B.

Jenny January 9th, 2004 07:39 PM

Z-bars (was Can anyone recommand a good tasting cereal?
 
Jean,

I definitely sense a cooling mouthfeel with maltitol and, to a lesser
extent, lacitol.

My body could live on a diet of nothing but chocolate quite happily and has
attempted it from time to time. g

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Jean B." wrote in message ...
Jenny wrote:

Jean,

There were two 7-11s in a town I drove through yesterday, Sunderland MA.
One had them, the other didn't.

I tried a second piece of the Zcarb bar last night and had pretty much

the
same experience. Something about that "cooling" taste that comes with

sugar
alcohols sparks off a hunger response in me and makes me want to eat

more.
I've noticed this before with the Ross chocolates. Since I really don't

need
180 calories of extra stuff in my daily plan right now (I'm balancing

out
the excesses of Christmas week by eating very modestly) the carbs aren't

as
much as an issue for me as the calories so the Lindt 70% square is a

better
treat value for me.

Needless to say if you wanted to eat three square of chocolate rather

than
one, and could handle the 180 calories, the Zcarb bar would be useful.

As
advertised it doesn't seem to cause a sugar spike. The carbs in the

Lindt
are higher--about 4 grams and only allow for eating one square. But for

some
reason I find the Lindt 70% extremely satisfying in a way no other

chocolate
is. And after eating it I don't feel like I need to eat any more

chocolate
which is rarely the case with other chocolates. (Don't ask me the

details of
the Christmas week excesses but the "Chocolate" played a major part in

them.
g)


I guess I have to figure out the trade-offs, assuming I find the
things. I looked for the Z-bars Sunday before last, so maybe they
have come in since then.

Maybe it is good that I can only have chocolate once a week at the
very most (otherwise, I get headaches). I like a pretty dark
chocolate, which can be good from a carb point of view--if I go
with the real thing.

I guess the things that have to be considered a

flavor and mouthfeel (which = satisfaction)
carbs
calories

I wonder why that cooling effect causes you to want more? Do you
sense that with ALL sugar alcohols? The only one I've seen people
comment on in that regard is erythritol.

--
Jean B.




Roger Zoul January 9th, 2004 09:52 PM

Z-bars (was Can anyone recommand a good tasting cereal?
 
Jenny wrote:
:: Jean,
::
:: There were two 7-11s in a town I drove through yesterday, Sunderland
:: MA. One had them, the other didn't.
::
:: I tried a second piece of the Zcarb bar last night and had pretty
:: much the same experience. Something about that "cooling" taste that
:: comes with sugar alcohols sparks off a hunger response in me and
:: makes me want to eat more.

You don't suppose that might be because you....you.....you enjoyed it, huh?

:)



emkay January 9th, 2004 10:23 PM

Z-bars (was Can anyone recommand a good tasting cereal?
 
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:18:17 -0500, "Jean B." wrote:

If it ever warms up here, I'll go look again. I assume this LC
poster is new, so maybe they are making more of an effort to get
such things in. Happily, the 7-Eleven nearest to me is the only
one that has the Iced Botanical drinks, which are pretty good. (I
prefer the strawberry-kiwi one.)


Jean -- if you like the strawberry-kiwi combination, you might like the
Hansen's diet soda of that same flavor (sweetened with Splenda and ace-K).
I saw it at Trader Joe's today.

(They had a couple of other flavors too: black cherry and tangerine-lime.
I picked up a six-pack of the tangerine-lime just to try something
different.)

Em

Jenny January 9th, 2004 11:53 PM

Z-bars (was Can anyone recommand a good tasting cereal?
 
Roger,

I don't think that the craving was set off because I enjoyed the bar, since
I enjoy the rich, dark chocolate flavor of the Lindt much, much more than I
do the faint chocolate flavor of the Zcarb bar, yet it doesn't set off
cravings.

There's something about that cool tingliness. I noticed the same effect
with Velamints. They were only a gram or so, but they filled my mouth with
that tingle and sure enough I'd end up eating more and more and then be
hungry.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...
Jenny wrote:
:: Jean,
::
:: There were two 7-11s in a town I drove through yesterday, Sunderland
:: MA. One had them, the other didn't.
::
:: I tried a second piece of the Zcarb bar last night and had pretty
:: much the same experience. Something about that "cooling" taste that
:: comes with sugar alcohols sparks off a hunger response in me and
:: makes me want to eat more.

You don't suppose that might be because you....you.....you enjoyed it,

huh?

:)





Jean B. January 10th, 2004 12:09 AM

Z-bars (was Can anyone recommand a good tasting cereal?
 
emkay wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:18:17 -0500, "Jean B." wrote:

If it ever warms up here, I'll go look again. I assume this LC
poster is new, so maybe they are making more of an effort to get
such things in. Happily, the 7-Eleven nearest to me is the only
one that has the Iced Botanical drinks, which are pretty good. (I
prefer the strawberry-kiwi one.)


Jean -- if you like the strawberry-kiwi combination, you might like the
Hansen's diet soda of that same flavor (sweetened with Splenda and ace-K).
I saw it at Trader Joe's today.

(They had a couple of other flavors too: black cherry and tangerine-lime.
I picked up a six-pack of the tangerine-lime just to try something
different.)

Em


Thanks for the tip. I forgot to get my favorite pasta sauce when
I was at TJ's this week, so I'll be back there within two days or
so.
--
Jean B.

tintinet January 10th, 2004 01:16 AM

Z-bars (was Can anyone recommand a good tasting cereal?
 
Got some Z-bars from LowCarbOutlet.com. Just tried the Chocolate with
peanut butter. I have to agree- it's the best low-carb candy I've
tried (although I have not tried the Lindt.) Maltitol and lactitol
put me through some terrible GI perturbations.


"Debbie Cusick" wrote in message ...
Oddly enough I just tried one of those myself tonight for the first time. I
thought it was fabulous! I did not experience any of the creepy taste
sensation I get with those candies sweetened with malitol, and I thought the
chocolate taste was very intense and satisfying. Best commercial SF bar I
have ever tried. Not an every day event, but it was a great experience. And
no cravings at all afterwards.

Debbie

"Jenny" wrote in message
...

BTW, today I was away from home and I finally found the Z-carb bars you'd
been asking me about.

I tested the Dark Chocolate Macadamia nut. The flavor had that cooling
taste that is typical of sugar alcohols. I thought the chocolate taste was
pretty weak compared to Lindt 70%. The calories are very high-181 for a
small bar. I ate a segment 1/3 the size of the whole bar--about the size

of
the portion I eat of the Lindt bars, and did not get the same feeling of
satisfaction I get from the Lindt, instead, I found myself quickly craving
more.


BRoseZ2 January 10th, 2004 11:18 AM

Can anyone recommand a good tasting cereal?
 
Can anyone recommand a good tasting cereal?

Try Quaker Puffed Wheat, it's fairly low in carbs and taste like food not
like cardboard like most low carb
stuff.

HTH
BarbZ


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