Quick weight loss
 

A lot of people say you should not lose more than 2lb a week. I
understand the reasoning.

But in my case I am close to 400lb more than double the weight of an
average person. Surely therefore it is OK for me to lose twice as much
healthily.

And where is the point were you say OK I'm so big that I need to get
the weight off as quick as possible. Where do the benefits of losing
weight quickly outweigh the health risks associated with quick loss?

Wouldn't it be best for me to stop being 'morbidly' obese as quick as
possible?

Brock
www.halfthemaniam.com

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On 28 Jul 2006 21:36:16 -0700, wrote:
A lot of people say you should not lose more than 2lb a week. I
understand the reasoning.

But in my case I am close to 400lb more than double the weight of an
average person. Surely therefore it is OK for me to lose twice as much
healthily.

I would agree with that. It is hard to quantify, but it should be safe
for you to lose somewhat more.

And where is the point were you say OK I'm so big that I need to get
the weight off as quick as possible. Where do the benefits of losing
weight quickly outweigh the health risks associated with quick loss?

there is no such point, as "as quick as possible" is an absurdity.

Wouldn't it be best for me to stop being 'morbidly' obese as quick as
possible?

I think that it would be good to start eating more sensible amounts of
food (like 2,500 calories per day), as soon as possible. That would
probably have some immediate benefits, to be followed by weight loss.

You are so fat that it makes no sense to be in a hurry, to rush etc,
you have to realize that if you want to be slim, you will be dieting
forever anyway. So you can as well start dieting sensibly now.

i

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wrote:
A lot of people say you should not lose more than 2lb a week. I
understand the reasoning.

But in my case I am close to 400lb more than double the weight of an
average person. Surely therefore it is OK for me to lose twice as much
healthily.

Hi Brock,

When I began at 385, I lost 15 pounds in the first two or so weeks. I
had lost 25 by month's end. Until this month, I've managed 10 pounds
lost a month. So yes,a larger person can lose weight more quickly. I
keep having to explain this to the dieting women in my office. :-)

However, there are some possible drawbacks to a rapid weight loss. One
is loose skin. Another, related factor is muscle loss - when you lose
weight you lose some muscle and sinew along with the fat. And there's
the additional stress on your body.

To minimize these concerns, I've been working out, so I am building
muscle while losing.

And where is the point were you say OK I'm so big that I need to get
the weight off as quick as possible.

When your doctor tells you to.

Where do the benefits of losing
weight quickly outweigh the health risks associated with quick loss?

If there are health risks, don't try it.

Wouldn't it be best for me to stop being 'morbidly' obese as quick as
possible?

Not if you endanger your health. Remember, you were not built in a day.
You won't be unbuilt in one.

Neil
385/304/200

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The Historian wrote:
wrote:

A lot of people say you should not lose more than 2lb a week. I
understand the reasoning.

But in my case I am close to 400lb more than double the weight of an
average person. Surely therefore it is OK for me to lose twice as much
healthily.


Hi Brock,

When I began at 385, I lost 15 pounds in the first two or so weeks. I
had lost 25 by month's end. Until this month, I've managed 10 pounds
lost a month. So yes,a larger person can lose weight more quickly. I
keep having to explain this to the dieting women in my office. :-)

However, there are some possible drawbacks to a rapid weight loss. One
is loose skin. Another, related factor is muscle loss - when you lose
weight you lose some muscle and sinew along with the fat. And there's
the additional stress on your body.

To minimize these concerns, I've been working out, so I am building
muscle while losing.

Actually, it's doubtful you are BUILDING muscle as you lose weight**,
but studies conclusively show that doing resistance training while on a
catabolic (deficit) diet will help to partition the weight loss towards
FAT loss versus a mix of fat and lean.

You typically want to preserve your metabolically active lean body mass:
which includes bone density, organs and muscles (including your heart.)

Resistance training is Pure Gold when you're losing weight. I'd prefer
to see people doing THAT versus cardio workouts if weight loss is their
main goal. (Of course, having decent cardio conditioning is a
reasonable goal, too, so in practice we suggest people exercise most
days of the week, alternating between cardio and resistance training.)

Dally

** There is something called "newbie gains" where you can build muscle
WHILE losing fat, but you only get this magical window once in your
lifetime and it only lasts about 6 months.

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Dally wrote:
The Historian wrote:
wrote:

A lot of people say you should not lose more than 2lb a week. I
understand the reasoning.

But in my case I am close to 400lb more than double the weight of an
average person. Surely therefore it is OK for me to lose twice as much
healthily.


Hi Brock,

When I began at 385, I lost 15 pounds in the first two or so weeks. I
had lost 25 by month's end. Until this month, I've managed 10 pounds
lost a month. So yes,a larger person can lose weight more quickly. I
keep having to explain this to the dieting women in my office. :-)

However, there are some possible drawbacks to a rapid weight loss. One
is loose skin. Another, related factor is muscle loss - when you lose
weight you lose some muscle and sinew along with the fat. And there's
the additional stress on your body.

To minimize these concerns, I've been working out, so I am building
muscle while losing.

Actually, it's doubtful you are BUILDING muscle as you lose weight**,
but studies conclusively show that doing resistance training while on a
catabolic (deficit) diet will help to partition the weight loss towards
FAT loss versus a mix of fat and lean.

You are correct. I was writing without thinking. What I meant to write
was that I was trying to minimize the loss by resistance training to
maintain muscle mass.

You typically want to preserve your metabolically active lean body mass:
which includes bone density, organs and muscles (including your heart.)

Resistance training is Pure Gold when you're losing weight. I'd prefer
to see people doing THAT versus cardio workouts if weight loss is their
main goal. (Of course, having decent cardio conditioning is a
reasonable goal, too, so in practice we suggest people exercise most
days of the week, alternating between cardio and resistance training.)

Thanks again for the clarification, Dally.

Neil
385/305/200

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A lot of people say you should not lose more than 2lb a week. I
understand the reasoning.

But in my case I am close to 400lb more than double the weight of an
average person. Surely therefore it is OK for me to lose twice as much
healthily.

Probably.

And where is the point were you say OK I'm so big that I need to get
the weight off as quick as possible. Where do the benefits of losing
weight quickly outweigh the health risks associated with quick loss?

That would be between you and your primary physician. If you have some
overriding health concern that puts you in some kind of immediate risk then
yes, rapid loss would be favorable to a point. Another reason for quick
loss is if maybe you've been morbidly obese most of your life and have made
several unsuccessful attempts to lose weight conventionally. the quick
nature of loss would be psychologically more motivating but there are
physical issues that come with it that might not be worth the risk.

Wouldn't it be best for me to stop being 'morbidly' obese as quick as
possible?

Depends on your long term goals. If you are losing weight pending major
surgery, like an organ transplant, absolutely! Otherwise it's something
you'll need to work out for yourself.
--
the volleyballchick

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Not if you die doing it.


wrote in message
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A lot of people say you should not lose more than 2lb a week. I
understand the reasoning.

But in my case I am close to 400lb more than double the weight of an
average person. Surely therefore it is OK for me to lose twice as much
healthily.

And where is the point were you say OK I'm so big that I need to get
the weight off as quick as possible. Where do the benefits of losing
weight quickly outweigh the health risks associated with quick loss?

Wouldn't it be best for me to stop being 'morbidly' obese as quick as
possible?

Brock
www.halfthemaniam.com

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I agree with your statements in general,but loose skin is going to be a
problem whether the weight comes off fast or slow.(When you are in the
375+ range.)I know from personal experience as I've lost in excess of
200 lbs. both ways fast&slow.The loose skin is a constant reminder of my
days at 400+.But my appearence(loose skin) was similar either fast or
slow.Once I lost 253 lbs.in 10 months,and more recently I lost 200+ lbs
in about 22 months.410/180/170