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Caleb February 1st, 2007 09:37 PM

Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
 

This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join
alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and
am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite
well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe
(hopefully) longer.

If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!

Yours,

Caleb

Day 32 - 19 pounds gone


determined February 1st, 2007 09:39 PM

Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
 

"Caleb" wrote in message
ups.com...

This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join
alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and
am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite
well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe
(hopefully) longer.

If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!

Yours,

Caleb

Day 32 - 19 pounds gone


Holy crap...



janice February 1st, 2007 10:16 PM

Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
 
On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote:


This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join
alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and
am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite
well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe
(hopefully) longer.

If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!

Yours,

Caleb


Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and
how much you regained from day 101 onwards?

janice


SFrunner February 2nd, 2007 12:40 AM

Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
 

Holy crap



My thoughts exactly. ==8O


Patricia Heil February 2nd, 2007 01:12 AM

Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
 

"determined" wrote in message
...

"Caleb" wrote in message
ups.com...

This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join
alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and
am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite
well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe
(hopefully) longer.

If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!

Yours,

Caleb

Day 32 - 19 pounds gone


Holy crap...


Is this the same guy who does this every year? Because then he stops and
gains all the weight back and has to start over?



Patricia Heil February 2nd, 2007 01:12 AM

Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
 

"janice" wrote in message
...
On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote:


This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join
alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and
am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite
well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe
(hopefully) longer.

If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!

Yours,

Caleb


Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and
how much you regained from day 101 onwards?

janice


So it is him!



Beverly February 2nd, 2007 02:29 AM

Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
 


Patricia Heil wrote:
"determined" wrote in message
...

"Caleb" wrote in message
ups.com...

This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join
alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and
am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite
well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe
(hopefully) longer.

If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!

Yours,

Caleb

Day 32 - 19 pounds gone


Holy crap...


Is this the same guy who does this every year? Because then he stops and
gains all the weight back and has to start over?


Yep! The same 100 day diet every year.



Caleb February 2nd, 2007 06:06 PM

Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
 
On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote:
"janice" wrote in message

...



On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote:


This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join
alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and
am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite
well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe
(hopefully) longer.


If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!


Yours,


Caleb


Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and
how much you regained from day 101 onwards?


janice


So it is him!



Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my
progress.

I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or
complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer
emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary
approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science
about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not
easy.

I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time --
hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to
do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this
approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc.

Couple of points for people to remember:

There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention.

It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up.

Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a
simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99
that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance
beam" on Google.)

Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres
to your dietary goals -- is important.

Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from
Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and
that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up
metabolism) are not supported by current data.

Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just
keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you
might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight
loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in
their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And
certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different
folks.

To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy.
Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a
road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things.

Yours,

Caleb


teachrmama February 3rd, 2007 03:30 AM

Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
 

"Caleb" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote:
"janice" wrote in message

...



On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote:


This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join
alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and
am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite
well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe
(hopefully) longer.


If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!


Yours,


Caleb


Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and
how much you regained from day 101 onwards?


janice


So it is him!



Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my
progress.

I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or
complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer
emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary
approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science
about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not
easy.

I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time --
hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to
do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this
approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc.

Couple of points for people to remember:

There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention.

It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up.

Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a
simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99
that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance
beam" on Google.)

Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres
to your dietary goals -- is important.

Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from
Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and
that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up
metabolism) are not supported by current data.

Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just
keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you
might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight
loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in
their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And
certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different
folks.

To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy.
Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a
road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things.


But, Caleb, are you really losing weight the first 100 days of every year,
and regaining it during the rest of the year? That sounds like yoyo
dieting, and that isn't terribly good for you, is it?



Caleb February 3rd, 2007 06:24 AM

Invitation to discuss low-calorie approaches to weight-loss on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
 
On Feb 2, 6:30 pm, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Caleb" wrote in message

oups.com...



On Feb 1, 4:12 pm, "Patricia Heil" wrote:
"janice" wrote in message


. ..


On 1 Feb 2007 12:37:22 -0800, "Caleb" wrote:


This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join
alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and
am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite
well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe
(hopefully) longer.


If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!


Yours,


Caleb


Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet, and
how much you regained from day 101 onwards?


janice


So it is him!


Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie my
progress.


I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or
complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people suffer
emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible dietary
approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science
about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not
easy.


I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time --
hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough to
do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started this
approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc.


Couple of points for people to remember:


There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention.


It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up.


Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a
simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99
that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance
beam" on Google.)


Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres
to your dietary goals -- is important.


Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from
Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and
that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding up
metabolism) are not supported by current data.


Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just
keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you
might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their weight
loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in
their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!" And
certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different
folks.


To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not easy.
Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows a
road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things.


But, Caleb, are you really losing weight the first 100 days of every year,
and regaining it during the rest of the year? That sounds like yoyo
dieting, and that isn't terribly good for you, is it?


Since you ask seriously -- I don't think I've lost significant amounts
of weight for about 2 years or perhaps more. So it seems to me about
time to get in harness again.

I remember attending a conference up in Seattle in the early 90s and
the presenter (it was on weight and exercise) noted how hugely
people's diets varied calorically. Great big swings, with some days
being several thousand and the next day being twice that. Eating
consistently and healthily turns out to be quite difficult for most
Americans, especially in this culture that makes snacks, large
portions, a variety of foods, etc., more available.

As to so called "yo-yo" dieting, one of the myths I guess I'd like to
put to rest is that it's difficult to lose weight if one has done it
before. There has been (certainly for me, and also the diet literature
shows it as well) no increased difficulty in losing weight because I
had done it before. There have been a variety of studies on weight-
cycling and there appears to be no clear consensus of the downside.
However, there is fairly clear agreement on what the downside of
remaining overweight and out of shape is. (Also, should there be a
doorman at WW who will not let you enter if you have several times
regained the weight you lost? If that happened, I think not too many
people who had a genuine weight problem would be permitted in.)

Also, given a choice between losing some weight or getting some
exercise (if one had to pick one or the other), some studies indicate
that losing weight is probably more important. Weight loss is the
difference between life or death for many people. And it sure can make
a huge difference emotionally, socially, vocationally, etc.

Mondale said in his run against Reagan: "It's not what we don't know
that's going to get us. It's what we know that just ain't so." (I
think he was quoting Will Rogers but am not sure.) And within the
world of dieting, there are many statements made with the feel of
utter certainty that turn out in the long run to be dubious.

Actually, I don't agree with his politics but I think Michael
Fumento's "Fat of the Land" is a pretty good look at some of the
important variables in dieting.

I'm pretty happy with the weight loss program I'm on now. Doesn't cost
me anything. I feel comfortable knowing that I'm improving my physical
status, that my clothes are getting looser, that I'll be able to carry
a backpack longer distances, etc. I sure don't gnash my teeth and
dwell on my failing. Life is short -- or, as my daughter once said,
it's not that life is short -- it's that death is long. I'd rather be
healthy than not. And if what I'm doing helps motivate others to lose
weight in their own way, then that's to the good.

Anyway, thanks for asking! I sure hope your program is going well!
What kind of program are you on?

Yours,

Caleb



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