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Yeah. That'll Happen.

Bush 2004.

Jake.


"rosie readandpost" wrote in message
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I'm not American and can't vote in your election, but I wish the
Democrats
well in next years election for the good of the world.


AMEN!

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Gotcha. Sorry, but I dont know a single solitary person who doesn't vote
because they feel "disenfranchised" or whatever the liberal tagline is at
the moment. I do, on the other hand know dozens of people who don't even
know what month the election occurs in.

That's just my experience. Respectfully: It becomes tiresome to hear
politically opinionated people (be they liberal, conservative, or like my
friends, just lazy) claiming that "most people" or a "vast majority" agree
with them. None of us should speak for anyone but ourselves.

Jakey



"Dawn Taylor" wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:25:46 -0700, "Jake"
announced in front of God and
everybody:

Dis-concur. Most (of my fellow) Americans are lazy, and that is why they
dont vote. Be careful not to speak for "most" American. Sure, most of
*your* circle may feel the things that you express, but then again,
*most*
of mine do not.

Well, all I can say is that I'm sorry that you have such a low opinion
of your fellow citizens. Seriously.

Hey, it's all subjective anyway.

Dawn

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"Cheri" -nogarbage wrote in message
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Really? I find that quite funny, since they are about the only ones that
network news covers. :-) Think Kennedys, Gores, Jesse Jackson, Al
Sharpton, Gray Davis, Cruz Bustamante, just to name a few. Hint: you can
always tell them by the number of government giveaway programs they
support or are trying to institute. :-)

--
Cheri

Frw of these people would be considered left wing outside the US.. All in
perception..

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"Bobo Bonobo®" wrote in message
om...
"Uffin" wrote in message
om...
No offense, but is this really the place to be posting something like
this?
I personally like Bush and don't want a new president.

Do you WORK for a living, or just OWN for a living? Working class
people who support people like Bush are kind of like Jewish people who
vote Nazi.

I think that's a bit exteme... More like the average German who voted Nazi..
They weren't to know what lay ahead...

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Hi,
On 19-Sep-2003, Crescent Mu_n wrote:

Sadly, appropriations from the OHS have become political footballs.
Look at the port security card debacle in Port Everglades.

I know. That money gets around. I'm an amateur radio operator, and
we're often the main means of communication left standing in cases of
disasters affecting the electrical grid and/or substantial
infrastructure damage. One of the grants was made to the American Radio
Relay League to allow reimbursement for courses in Emergency
Communications (Levels I, II, and III) for hams who successfully
completed the courses. The focus of the courses is to emphasize
communication efficiency in emergency conditions and, more importantly,
how the amateur operator fits into the structure as per the use of
Incident Command. I'm an Army MARS operator, so the 16 line format used
for messages is familiar to me, but for the vast majority of hams who
were never military or aren't involved with MARS it teaches things like
that as well. Useful training, and it will stand communities in good
stead for the usual disasters, not just terrorist attacks. I'm not
confident that all the money is being so wisely spent.

The majority seem happy enough to allow the expansion of
governmental power as
long as they perceive it as only being used on some nameless faceless
(but
not like *me*) "Others".

The polls are clear. Only one out of five Americans stand firmly
against a National Identity Card. Of the 4 left, only one of those
says that they only approve of a NIC b/c of the "war on terrorism".

Mark of the Beast mentality. Orwellian mythologies?

Have you looked at the PDF417 barcode on the back of your driver's
license.

What is it there for?

Originally, or what is it moving towards at the speed of a bullet train
under the auspices of AAMVA? :-(

Take care,
Carmen

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Hi,
On 19-Sep-2003, Steve wrote:

Who knows what evil lurks in men's souls?

The Shadow knows! G

How do you know that and didn't know about Shinola? :-)

Geek, subclass Bookworm. :-) I used to get in trouble for reading when
I wasn't supposed to as a kid.

Take care,
Carmen

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:45:10 GMT, "Carmen "
wrote:

I'm an amateur radio operator, and
we're often the main means of communication left standing in cases of
disasters affecting the electrical grid and/or substantial
infrastructure damage.

You remind me of my brother-in-law's now deceased father. I worked
with Manfred in an old, unairconditioned warehouse every summer a
block or so off the Mississippi. He was Signal
Corp/Anniston/McClellan/Colonel and had a basement full of ham gear.
I loved that man. He was the first to bring MI to my attention, we
talked for hours about his war experiences (Korea), geography and, of
course, emergency management situations.

He got exposed at Annistion, fought throat cancer.

One of the grants was made to the American Radio
Relay League to allow reimbursement for courses in Emergency
Communications (Levels I, II, and III) for hams who successfully
completed the courses. The focus of the courses is to emphasize
communication efficiency in emergency conditions and, more importantly,
how the amateur operator fits into the structure as per the use of
Incident Command. I'm an Army MARS operator, so the 16 line format used
for messages is familiar to me, but for the vast majority of hams who
were never military or aren't involved with MARS it teaches things like
that as well. Useful training, and it will stand communities in good
stead for the usual disasters, not just terrorist attacks.

Your service is appreciated. I'm sure Sarge is proud of you.

Where in Tennessee? You don't have to answer.

I'm not
confident that all the money is being so wisely spent.

I'm confident it is not.

Have you looked at the PDF417 barcode on the back of your driver's
license.

What is it there for?

Originally, or what is it moving towards at the speed of a bullet train
under the auspices of AAMVA? :-(

Both.

Guess who has figured out how to stuff your fingerprint, encrypted,
into that format?

Guess who has figured out how to stuff your DNA encoding, encrypted,
into that format?

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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:32:25 -0700, "Jake"
announced in front of God and
everybody:

Gotcha. Sorry, but I dont know a single solitary person who doesn't vote
because they feel "disenfranchised" or whatever the liberal tagline is at
the moment. I do, on the other hand know dozens of people who don't even
know what month the election occurs in.

I'm genuinely curious as to why you think that is. Seriously. Why do
you think people don't care about elections? Why they don't bother to
vote on measures and tax increses and the like?

I submit -- and feel free to disagree -- that it's because they don't
think their voices make a difference. I think a great many people have
just rolled over and given up, because they believe that the vast
political machine is driven not by democracy but by money and power --
and that it'll continue to be corrupt and ****ed up whether they go to
the polls or not. So they shrug it off, don't bother to remember when
election day is, open another beer and watch some TV.

That's what I mean by "disenfranchised," by the way. I don't believe
it's mere laziness -- it's ennui borne of a feeling of hopelessness.

Dawn

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Um.. for same reason I never manage to vote. Maybe lazy was the wrong word
(although there's still a good chunk of people for whom that it is the
problem): I always intend to vote, but I'm BUSY. I always end up realizing
the day is here when I'm at work and can't get away.

I don't feel disenfranchised- I know my vote would make a difference if I
got it out there. But my life is full, and frankly, remembering when the
day comes, where to go, and to inform my boss I need it off, driving down
there, etc. et al.... too much.

Jake. (who surely sounds quite worthless in the civic sense now)


"Dawn Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:32:25 -0700, "Jake"
announced in front of God and
everybody:

Gotcha. Sorry, but I dont know a single solitary person who doesn't vote
because they feel "disenfranchised" or whatever the liberal tagline is at
the moment. I do, on the other hand know dozens of people who don't even
know what month the election occurs in.

I'm genuinely curious as to why you think that is. Seriously. Why do
you think people don't care about elections? Why they don't bother to
vote on measures and tax increses and the like?

I submit -- and feel free to disagree -- that it's because they don't
think their voices make a difference. I think a great many people have
just rolled over and given up, because they believe that the vast
political machine is driven not by democracy but by money and power --
and that it'll continue to be corrupt and ****ed up whether they go to
the polls or not. So they shrug it off, don't bother to remember when
election day is, open another beer and watch some TV.

That's what I mean by "disenfranchised," by the way. I don't believe
it's mere laziness -- it's ennui borne of a feeling of hopelessness.

Dawn

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"Dawn Taylor" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:32:25 -0700, "Jake"
announced in front of God and
everybody:

Gotcha. Sorry, but I dont know a single solitary person who doesn't vote
because they feel "disenfranchised" or whatever the liberal tagline is at
the moment. I do, on the other hand know dozens of people who don't even
know what month the election occurs in.

I'm genuinely curious as to why you think that is. Seriously. Why do
you think people don't care about elections? Why they don't bother to
vote on measures and tax increses and the like?

I submit -- and feel free to disagree -- that it's because they don't
think their voices make a difference. I think a great many people have
just rolled over and given up, because they believe that the vast
political machine is driven not by democracy but by money and power --
and that it'll continue to be corrupt and ****ed up whether they go to
the polls or not. So they shrug it off, don't bother to remember when
election day is, open another beer and watch some TV.

That's what I mean by "disenfranchised," by the way. I don't believe
it's mere laziness -- it's ennui borne of a feeling of hopelessness.

Dawn

I think a lot of people believe that the major political parties are just
the same.. like 2 different teams wearing different colours, but basically
the same, and that whoever wins the election, nothing will really change..