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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 00:52:11 -0000, nevje
wrote: hi folks i was about to post a whinging self deflating story of why im having problems getting started on losing weight i started to read the group and came across hambugers before and after pics after 1 year ... now thats inspiring im about the same starting weight as hamburger and keep trying to lose weight and then keep rebounding back into a really daft and greedy feeding frenzy ... im fat because im greedy - its that simple for me, well ok, not simple ... as greedy is just a word and if i really think about it its comfort greed. i want it so much but at the same time i seem to have a major rebound after several days and then totally lose the plot for weeks on end. this has been happening for the last couple of years. so hows it go ... hi, im a fat guy and i need help .... Well, welcome, Nevje. The thing is, losing weight isn't going to work unless you really decide you want it. Otherwise, what's happening to you will happen: you will just give in to temptation after a few days. If you do really want to go for it, participating here will help. What sort of diet approach are you using? What is happening to make you go off the diet? Maybe we can help you find some solutions. Chris (of the female sort) 262/155/ (holding in 152-165 weight class) |
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Welcome to ASD, Nevje.
How about making gradual small changes? It's often over whelming to make a drastic change in our eating and exercise routines. The changes are something you'll need to continue for life if you want to lose and keep it off. Stick around - you'll find lots of information and support. Beverly "nevje" wrote in message .. . hi folks i was about to post a whinging self deflating story of why im having problems getting started on losing weight i started to read the group and came across hambugers before and after pics after 1 year ... now thats inspiring im about the same starting weight as hamburger and keep trying to lose weight and then keep rebounding back into a really daft and greedy feeding frenzy ... im fat because im greedy - its that simple for me, well ok, not simple ... as greedy is just a word and if i really think about it its comfort greed. i want it so much but at the same time i seem to have a major rebound after several days and then totally lose the plot for weeks on end. this has been happening for the last couple of years. so hows it go ... hi, im a fat guy and i need help .... |
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"Beverly" wrote in message ... Welcome to ASD, Nevje. How about making gradual small changes? It's often over whelming to make a drastic change in our eating and exercise routines. The changes are something you'll need to continue for life if you want to lose and keep it off. Stick around - you'll find lots of information and support. Beverly Hi, nevje Here's a plan for gradually changing your eating habits http://www.dolfzine.com/page590.htm You might look at it and see if it would help. One other thing that you might want to check out are those keys on the left and right side of your keyboard marked "Shift". They make the lower case letters upper case. When you start a sentence the first letter of the first word is supposed to be upper case. Also, just to the right of the "Enter" key is a key with " and '. The ' is used in words like "I've", "I'm" and "don't". HTH Tonia |
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That T Woman wrote:
One other thing that you might want to check out are those keys on the left and right side of your keyboard marked "Shift". They make the lower case letters upper case. When you start a sentence the first letter of the first word is supposed to be upper case. Also, just to the right of the "Enter" key is a key with " and '. The ' is used in words like "I've", "I'm" and "don't". Thank you. I was feeling too curmudgeonly so I didn't mention it. But since you brought it up, I'm going to advocate for the extra exercise that comes from spelling out the word "you". Dally |
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:03:52 -0000, nevje
wrote: hi, im a fat guy and i need help .... Well, welcome, Nevje. The thing is, losing weight isn't going to work unless you really decide you want it. Otherwise, what's happening to you will happen: you will just give in to temptation after a few days. If you do really want to go for it, participating here will help. What sort of diet approach are you using? What is happening to make you go off the diet? Maybe we can help you find some solutions. Chris (of the female sort) 262/155/ (holding in 152-165 weight class) thats it though .... i do want it i start off well, i eat all the right things and sometimes i can go 1 week, other times 3 or 4 weeks but then i seem to lose the will for it - someone will ask me to go for a meal or somewhere i know i shouldnt go (food wise) and then thats it, will to stay on track is blown away and its like impossible to say no to anything .... this is definately a high addiction to food type of response and then it takes me a week or several weeks to build up the will again to stop me doing this .... at which point i hate me. I think the problem here isn't so much that you eat a meal that's not on your diet, but that you can't get back to it. I think you need to allow yourself these occasional splurges without feeling like you've blown it and giving up. Just decide to splurge and feel good about yourself anyway because you've been doing great most of the time. Then just go back to doing great most of the time. I've lose 100+ pounds by doing great most of the time. I've averaged around one splurge meal a week during that time, with no guilt. Would I lose faster without it? Probably a bit, but I wasn't in a hurry. Chris 262/159/ (holding in 152-165 weight class) |
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"nevje" wrote in message .. . thanks for the comments motu, ignoramous, beverley and chris. i joined a club tonight and got weighed. they have weekly weigh ins and talks each week on various topics related to health, specifically mens health as its a male only club. weighed in at 339.5 pounds. today was my first day in a while where i have managed to stick to what i planned to eat and drink. im going to try and stay away from my triggers and plan my intake properly as thats where i was falling down quite badly before. i wouldnt plan things and would end up having something i shouldnt because of it. anyway, hopefully day one will become a habit - time will tell. 339.5/day one Hopefully being part of a group will help give you a little more motivation to stick to your plan. Make sure your plan has enough calories and nutrients to make you feel satisfied and that will help a little with the urges. What's helped for me, though not always the best response, is to make sure I don't have access to the foods that would really wipe me out (more mentally than physically). If I do overeat, I cut back immediately with the next meal. When it comes to identifying triggers, a food log and journal might help. If I get really bad urges to overeat, I look back at what I had to eat earlier that day or even the night before. I also try to figure out what's going on my life that might be stressing me and what's coming up that I might be anxious about. I also take into account how much sleep I've had (less sleep usually means more food cravings). Those are the triggers I have identified that are not related to my female hormone cycles. Take it one day at a time and remember that there is no reason to completely give up if you slip a little. Good luck. Jenn |
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nevje wrote:
so please take your irrelevant **** off somewhere it may matter. In this forum we communicate via words. How you speak *is* how you are to us. We tell people coming here that we spell out words ("you" instead of "u", for example), but no one grades for spelling or typos or the occasional grammatical error. But your use of contractions without punctuation is hard to read, and your convention of not using capital letters is hard to parse. Why would you choose to not use the conventions of the language being used in the room? What's in it for you? Is it a fashion statement? You're going for the illiterate lazy look for some reason? Or is it a sophisticated thing, like e. e. cummings, where you figure you're special enough to warrant the extra effort? Look, we're about substance here, but it's not asking too much that you conform a bit to some conventions designed to make you more understandable. At least you didn't top-post. Dally |
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Hi Nevje and welcome to the group.
I understand what you are going thru and I used to have the same problem. I am also emotionally addicted to the wrong types of food and it used to be easy for me to lose focus. It is all about making a choice, not will power. You have to choose to eat how you know you should. For me, it was realizing that I was turning 35, weighing nearly 300 lbs and being a smoker. I hit that wall where I knew I had to change. If I can do it, anyone can. I've lost 70+ lbs in 7 months, haven't smoked in 4+ months and currently exercise 4-5 days a week. A year ago, I would have not believed that I could do this or be this much healthier. What I use to motivate myself is realizing how good I am feeling. I WANT to feel better, I choose to make better choices. I also don't give up if I have a bad food day. I just get back to it the next day and not make myself feel bad. It won't be easy at first, but it gets easier. Best wishes to you and post often.. "nevje" wrote in message i start off well, i eat all the right things and sometimes i can go 1 week, other times 3 or 4 weeks but then i seem to lose the will for it - someone will ask me to go for a meal or somewhere i know i shouldnt go (food wise) and then thats it, will to stay on track is blown away and its like impossible to say no to anything .... this is definately a high addiction to food type of response and then it takes me a week or several weeks to build up the will again to stop me doing this .... at which point i hate me. |
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You offer a lot of wise and sound advice.
"motu2467" wrote in message Don't demand perfection from yourself. Many of us visit "munchie hell" You can learn to make the visit to "munchie hell" shorter and the visits to "good fuel for my body" longer. You are in a process of forming new habits, new behaviors. Note the word "process". You will never be perfect, or even eat perfectly, it is too much to expect. and when ive finished being a pig and get control back i cant believe how stupid ive been Sure, it's "I feel stupid, fat, I'm a miserable excuse for a human being" "I don't have any willpower." Wonder how many people here have ever felt the same way? Lots! If you are eating emotionally and stuffing yourself past the point of being "full", sometimes eat alone and in secret, and feel totally out of control, you might want to consider the possibility that you are a binge eater. Even if you don't know *why* you are eating like this, doesn't mean it it not possible to *change* the behavior. Consider consulting a nutritionist/therapist who is experienced helping people who eat like this. You might be able to deal with this yourself, but having a "helper" of some sort can make the learning process go faster. Do a search on the term and see if you think it sounds like the way you eat. ***I saw a psychologist that specialized in eating disorders for a few months and it helped me put things into perspective! I am also a binge eater that isn't cured, but under control now. this cycle has been going on now for quite some time and if i carry on this way im gonna end up dead Correct, last I heard, life has a 100% mortality rate :) But if you mean you want to live longer with a body not riddled with diseases like diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer, arthritis and such; then, yes, you should learn to be nice to yourself and give yourself good fuel to maintain your body in a state of health. You will look younger and have a new spring in your step. You deserve that. |
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The first step is the hardest (at least for me). I would suggest also
seeing a nutritionist or counselor of some sort to help you become accountable. "nevje" wrote in message .. . thanks for the comments motu, ignoramous, beverley and chris. i joined a club tonight and got weighed. they have weekly weigh ins and talks each week on various topics related to health, specifically mens health as its a male only club. weighed in at 339.5 pounds. today was my first day in a while where i have managed to stick to what i planned to eat and drink. im going to try and stay away from my triggers and plan my intake properly as thats where i was falling down quite badly before. i wouldnt plan things and would end up having something i shouldnt because of it. anyway, hopefully day one will become a habit - time will tell. 339.5/day one |
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