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doug lerner April 13th, 2009 01:49 AM

A couple of "Filling Foods" questions
 
As I mentioned, I recently tried the free online WW trial and have a
current copy of the "Filling Foods" list and the current "Momentum"
plan and its "Simply Filling" variation.

I have two questions about this:

(1) Comparing Simply FIlling to the old "Core" plan I cannot see any
difference at all - not in the foods list, not in the free weekly
points allowance, not in activity points, not in the suggestions about
portions or listening to your hunger signals and avoid overstuffing.
Are there really any differences at all from Core?

(2) How do foods which are made from Filling Foods and non-Filling
Foods work again? For example, if I make a stew from Filling Foods and
add a non-Filling Food ingredient to it, do I just count the points of
the extra items against my weekly extra allowance?

Thanks,

doug


Willow Herself April 13th, 2009 02:20 AM

A couple of "Filling Foods" questions
 

"doug lerner" wrote in message
...
As I mentioned, I recently tried the free online WW trial and have a
current copy of the "Filling Foods" list and the current "Momentum"
plan and its "Simply Filling" variation.

I have two questions about this:

(1) Comparing Simply FIlling to the old "Core" plan I cannot see any
difference at all - not in the foods list, not in the free weekly
points allowance, not in activity points, not in the suggestions about
portions or listening to your hunger signals and avoid overstuffing.
Are there really any differences at all from Core?


Not really. The new plan is more of a new approach for Point counters than
for those who were doing Core (Simply Filling now).

(2) How do foods which are made from Filling Foods and non-Filling
Foods work again? For example, if I make a stew from Filling Foods and
add a non-Filling Food ingredient to it, do I just count the points of
the extra items against my weekly extra allowance?


The rule of thumb is that if there is more than 2 ingredients that are
Non-Filling, OR if a main ingredient is Non-Filling, you count the whole
thing.

If it's just 1-2 ingredients (for exemple, a sandwich in which only the
bread would be non-Filling) then you can count the WPAs for the one
ingredients (or two) and not count the rest.

The sandwich would be 0+ bread pts.
Will~



Thanks,

doug




douglerner April 13th, 2009 02:29 AM

A couple of "Filling Foods" questions
 
On Apr 13, 10:20*am, "Willow Herself"
wrote:

The rule of thumb is that if there is more than 2 ingredients that are
Non-Filling, OR if a main ingredient is Non-Filling, you count the whole
thing.

If it's just 1-2 ingredients (for exemple, a sandwich in which only the
bread would be non-Filling) then you can count the WPAs for the one
ingredients (or two) and not count the rest.

The sandwich would be 0+ bread pts.
Will~


Thanks, Willow.

Is that "rule of thumb" actually stated in an FAQ or printed info
somewhere, or is this just something the WW counselors tell you?

Yours,

doug


Willow Herself April 13th, 2009 03:44 AM

A couple of "Filling Foods" questions
 

"douglerner" wrote in message
...
On Apr 13, 10:20 am, "Willow Herself"
wrote:

The rule of thumb is that if there is more than 2 ingredients that are
Non-Filling, OR if a main ingredient is Non-Filling, you count the whole
thing.

If it's just 1-2 ingredients (for exemple, a sandwich in which only the
bread would be non-Filling) then you can count the WPAs for the one
ingredients (or two) and not count the rest.

The sandwich would be 0+ bread pts.
Will~


Thanks, Willow.

Is that "rule of thumb" actually stated in an FAQ or printed info
somewhere, or is this just something the WW counselors tell you?

Yours,

doug


I don't think it's explained "as such" anywhere. That's what we are being
told to explain to the members by the trainers.

In the cookbooks, and the material, any recipe that has any non-filling
ingredient is being count as a whole.

There is allusion to it in some various quiz on the website, but I've never
seen it quite spelled out.

Will~



Stormmee April 13th, 2009 03:46 AM

A couple of "Filling Foods" questions
 
that is my understanding, so if you have a pot of stew with filling foods
and say the stew is eight servings, and you put in 8 points of non filling
foods then a serving is 1 point, somebody please correct me if i am wrong,
Lee
"doug lerner" wrote in message
...
As I mentioned, I recently tried the free online WW trial and have a
current copy of the "Filling Foods" list and the current "Momentum"
plan and its "Simply Filling" variation.

I have two questions about this:

(1) Comparing Simply FIlling to the old "Core" plan I cannot see any
difference at all - not in the foods list, not in the free weekly
points allowance, not in activity points, not in the suggestions about
portions or listening to your hunger signals and avoid overstuffing.
Are there really any differences at all from Core?

(2) How do foods which are made from Filling Foods and non-Filling
Foods work again? For example, if I make a stew from Filling Foods and
add a non-Filling Food ingredient to it, do I just count the points of
the extra items against my weekly extra allowance?

Thanks,

doug




Stormmee April 13th, 2009 03:48 AM

A couple of "Filling Foods" questions
 
so is my example right or wrong? Lee, not sure now
"Willow Herself" wrote in
message ...

"doug lerner" wrote in message
...
As I mentioned, I recently tried the free online WW trial and have a
current copy of the "Filling Foods" list and the current "Momentum"
plan and its "Simply Filling" variation.

I have two questions about this:

(1) Comparing Simply FIlling to the old "Core" plan I cannot see any
difference at all - not in the foods list, not in the free weekly
points allowance, not in activity points, not in the suggestions about
portions or listening to your hunger signals and avoid overstuffing.
Are there really any differences at all from Core?


Not really. The new plan is more of a new approach for Point counters than
for those who were doing Core (Simply Filling now).

(2) How do foods which are made from Filling Foods and non-Filling
Foods work again? For example, if I make a stew from Filling Foods and
add a non-Filling Food ingredient to it, do I just count the points of
the extra items against my weekly extra allowance?


The rule of thumb is that if there is more than 2 ingredients that are
Non-Filling, OR if a main ingredient is Non-Filling, you count the whole
thing.

If it's just 1-2 ingredients (for exemple, a sandwich in which only the
bread would be non-Filling) then you can count the WPAs for the one
ingredients (or two) and not count the rest.

The sandwich would be 0+ bread pts.
Will~



Thanks,

doug






Willow Herself April 13th, 2009 04:21 AM

A couple of "Filling Foods" questions
 
It depends how many "non-filling foods" you have.. if it's more than 1 or 2,
your recipe isn't Simply Filling anymore..

I rarely have more than one non-filling ingredient anyway. It's not about
what you can get away with, it's about understanding how the program works
and why.

Some people do it differently, they just count the pts for non-filling foods
only, no matter how many there are. If that works for them, fine for them,
that is not how the plan was taught to us (the leaders).


"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
that is my understanding, so if you have a pot of stew with filling foods
and say the stew is eight servings, and you put in 8 points of non filling
foods then a serving is 1 point, somebody please correct me if i am wrong,
Lee
"doug lerner" wrote in message
...
As I mentioned, I recently tried the free online WW trial and have a
current copy of the "Filling Foods" list and the current "Momentum"
plan and its "Simply Filling" variation.

I have two questions about this:

(1) Comparing Simply FIlling to the old "Core" plan I cannot see any
difference at all - not in the foods list, not in the free weekly
points allowance, not in activity points, not in the suggestions about
portions or listening to your hunger signals and avoid overstuffing.
Are there really any differences at all from Core?

(2) How do foods which are made from Filling Foods and non-Filling
Foods work again? For example, if I make a stew from Filling Foods and
add a non-Filling Food ingredient to it, do I just count the points of
the extra items against my weekly extra allowance?

Thanks,

doug






Stormmee April 13th, 2009 04:26 AM

A couple of "Filling Foods" questions
 
makes sense, but then i was thinking in stew the only non filling foods i
might put in would be oil to brown the meat and a bit of flour to thicken
the gravy, thanks for putting up with us, Lee
"Willow Herself" wrote in
message ...
It depends how many "non-filling foods" you have.. if it's more than 1 or
2, your recipe isn't Simply Filling anymore..

I rarely have more than one non-filling ingredient anyway. It's not about
what you can get away with, it's about understanding how the program works
and why.

Some people do it differently, they just count the pts for non-filling
foods only, no matter how many there are. If that works for them, fine for
them, that is not how the plan was taught to us (the leaders).


"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
that is my understanding, so if you have a pot of stew with filling foods
and say the stew is eight servings, and you put in 8 points of non
filling foods then a serving is 1 point, somebody please correct me if i
am wrong, Lee
"doug lerner" wrote in message
...
As I mentioned, I recently tried the free online WW trial and have a
current copy of the "Filling Foods" list and the current "Momentum"
plan and its "Simply Filling" variation.

I have two questions about this:

(1) Comparing Simply FIlling to the old "Core" plan I cannot see any
difference at all - not in the foods list, not in the free weekly
points allowance, not in activity points, not in the suggestions about
portions or listening to your hunger signals and avoid overstuffing.
Are there really any differences at all from Core?

(2) How do foods which are made from Filling Foods and non-Filling
Foods work again? For example, if I make a stew from Filling Foods and
add a non-Filling Food ingredient to it, do I just count the points of
the extra items against my weekly extra allowance?

Thanks,

doug








Stephanie[_2_] April 13th, 2009 01:23 PM

A couple of "Filling Foods" questions
 
Willow Herself wrote:
It depends how many "non-filling foods" you have.. if it's more than
1 or 2, your recipe isn't Simply Filling anymore..

I rarely have more than one non-filling ingredient anyway. It's not
about what you can get away with, it's about understanding how the
program works and why.

Some people do it differently, they just count the pts for
non-filling foods only, no matter how many there are. If that works
for them, fine for them, that is not how the plan was taught to us
(the leaders).




Wait. I did not realize you are not supposed to count points for filling
foods? I use the filling foods list to provide me with... filling foods! I
like to not be hungry. But I count all points. Is this wrong?





"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
that is my understanding, so if you have a pot of stew with filling
foods and say the stew is eight servings, and you put in 8 points of
non filling foods then a serving is 1 point, somebody please correct
me if i am wrong, Lee
"doug lerner" wrote in message
...
As I mentioned, I recently tried the free online WW trial and have a
current copy of the "Filling Foods" list and the current "Momentum"
plan and its "Simply Filling" variation.

I have two questions about this:

(1) Comparing Simply FIlling to the old "Core" plan I cannot see any
difference at all - not in the foods list, not in the free weekly
points allowance, not in activity points, not in the suggestions
about portions or listening to your hunger signals and avoid
overstuffing. Are there really any differences at all from Core?

(2) How do foods which are made from Filling Foods and non-Filling
Foods work again? For example, if I make a stew from Filling Foods
and add a non-Filling Food ingredient to it, do I just count the
points of the extra items against my weekly extra allowance?

Thanks,

doug




Willow Herself April 13th, 2009 08:59 PM

A couple of "Filling Foods" questions
 
Then I would count the points for only the oil and the flour..

But if, for exemple, your stew had the oil, the flour, and non-filling beef,
I would count the whole thing because you have 3 non-filling ingredients AND
one of them is a main ingredient of your stew (beef).
Will~

"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
makes sense, but then i was thinking in stew the only non filling foods i
might put in would be oil to brown the meat and a bit of flour to thicken
the gravy, thanks for putting up with us, Lee
"Willow Herself" wrote in
message ...
It depends how many "non-filling foods" you have.. if it's more than 1 or
2, your recipe isn't Simply Filling anymore..

I rarely have more than one non-filling ingredient anyway. It's not about
what you can get away with, it's about understanding how the program
works and why.

Some people do it differently, they just count the pts for non-filling
foods only, no matter how many there are. If that works for them, fine
for them, that is not how the plan was taught to us (the leaders).


"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
that is my understanding, so if you have a pot of stew with filling
foods and say the stew is eight servings, and you put in 8 points of non
filling foods then a serving is 1 point, somebody please correct me if i
am wrong, Lee
"doug lerner" wrote in message
...
As I mentioned, I recently tried the free online WW trial and have a
current copy of the "Filling Foods" list and the current "Momentum"
plan and its "Simply Filling" variation.

I have two questions about this:

(1) Comparing Simply FIlling to the old "Core" plan I cannot see any
difference at all - not in the foods list, not in the free weekly
points allowance, not in activity points, not in the suggestions about
portions or listening to your hunger signals and avoid overstuffing.
Are there really any differences at all from Core?

(2) How do foods which are made from Filling Foods and non-Filling
Foods work again? For example, if I make a stew from Filling Foods and
add a non-Filling Food ingredient to it, do I just count the points of
the extra items against my weekly extra allowance?

Thanks,

doug











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