On 1/28/2004 3:29 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
zsklar quoted:

All meals were prepared for participants, who were instructed to eat as much
as they wanted. They also were told to return any uneaten food, which the
researchers said enabled them to calculate calorie intake.


Prepared food to avoid cheating. Right. Do that with any plan and
it will work.

On one hand, I agree with you but on the other hand, isn't this how the
Harvard study that was so touted on this ng conducted? (no, I don't
mean by you specifically, but by the ng in general)

"The study was carefully controlled for what participants ate over the
12 weeks. Rather than giving participants a list of approved foods and
quantities and setting them free, Greene had the food prepared fresh
daily according to special recipes at a Cambridge restaurant, Ristorante
Marino." -- http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/...3-lowcarb.html

"The whole idea that you could lose weight without reducing energy intake
flies in the face of 100 years of data," Foster said.


As long as you carefully ignore the data from low carb studies that is.
The data from those studies doesn't make sense if you assume caloric
restriction is the be-all and end-all of weight loss, so the data gets
ignored.

Well, there is also a quote in there saying that the researches think
that the subjects didn't report things 100% properly (don't know how
since they measured the food).

Everyone is different. No plan works for everyone. When you can
control all of the food someone eats the chances they'll lose is
higher on any plan. All truths.

Yup, this is definitely true. YMMV with any WOE.
--
jmk in NC