Roger Zoul wrote:

M.W.Smith wrote:
:: Ron Ritzman wrote:
::: Yea, how many Atkids are doing the diet with Salmon, lean meats,
::: flax oil and macadamia nuts? When I did the diet (limited budget) my
::: typical breakfast was either a protein drink or a half can of
::: Double Q salmon, lunch, a Wendy's chicken BLT salad with a low carb
::: dressing or lemon. Dinner, Chicken or the leanest cut of beef or
::: pork I could find on special at Kroger, a salad and/or a green
::: vegetable. I did not constantly "pig out" on bacon, sausage, and
::: bunless burgers. (though I won't say I never ate those things.)
::
:: However, for a great many overweight people, a big problem
:: is sticking to the diet, whatever the diet. The high fat
:: foods of Atkins serve to eliminate the hunger and cravings
:: that are most dieters' downfall. For these people, the diet
:: you are talking about will not so effectively reduce hunger
:: and cravings.

Sure it does. Protein & fiber help, along with good fats.

Not for me. Fiber is filling, but the full feeling doesn't
eliminate hunger for me. Protein does reduce hunger for me,
but not as efficiently as fat.

::: Lyle made another interesting point. Weight loss itself, regardless
::: of the composition of the diet, often improves lipid numbers. So
::: does exercise. So even one on the "high sat fat" Atkins diet,
::: (assuming it's resulting in a calorie deficit and the dieter is
::: exercising) the dieter is often better off then he was on his old
::: diet sitting in his easy chair his only exercise being Budweiser
::: curls and the 5 yard commercial break potty dash.
::
:: I agree, but my point was that the exercise might completely
:: nullify the long term negative effects of the high fat in
:: the diet.

Especially if that exercise keeps calorie consumption from being excessive.

For most people, exercise increases calorie consumption.

martin