Nunya B. wrote:
Reasons are different than excuses. When a piano falls on your head, the
excuse isn't gravity.


Do you just use some kind of random word generator or something?

Is there an idea you disagreed with or did you get tired of saying what
is the point?


Why would you say that? Your previous obesity isn't an "i know everything
about it" card.


No, it isn't, but I do know enough about it to have tackled it without being
a self-righteous ass.

That's not noticeable from your posts.


You're right, we don't live in a lab so that's why I don't regard these
studies as the holy grail. However, I am an adult and have free will.

The body mechanism are part of you mind and your body and your will.
Your body makes you hungry. If you are constantly hungry is it
reasonable to expect people not to eat?

Identical twins raised in different families, religions, areas,
following different diets. Yet they are still close to the same weight.
Far closer than siblings and non-identical twins. Your will is free, but
not unlimitted when it comes to physical mechanisms.

People just might not like the methods needed
to prevent it. That is the point here.

Now you have hijacked the point from a threat I started.

Most other "genetic" issues are still theory and despite the issues people
have overcome them by doing whatever it took.

Hardly just theory. Overcome them doing whatever it takes sounds very macho.


You're way off here.

That's my random word generator again.

ADULTS can prevent obesity or treat their obesity.
ADULTS have some control over their environment.

If can have perfect control it is possible. That's just not very
probable. As we see by the failure rates.


If you are a black woman who has naturally more ghrelin which makes you
naturally hungrier, at what point does that go from excuse to a reason?


When the woman uses that excuse to not even attempt to deal with the hunger
in a productive way.

It's not excuse. It's physical fact. But because it's hunger it's not
real? If you hit me would you tell me my pain is not real and I am not
dealing with it in a productive way?

You can depending on how far you are willing to go and what you are willing
to endure in an extreme case.

Again, very macho. I must endure everything to be thin. Why would that
be? If it's too hard then I won't do it. Just like I gave up my quest
for the 4 minute mile.


Not in today's society because people want an easy way out and don't want to
deal with hard work or discomfort.

Let's see, most of the obese people I know are pretty hard workers. I am
sure they would be amused to hear you say they aren't. Evaluating
someone elses experience as discomfort is the type of arrogance I have
come to expect from you.