"Stacey Bender" wrote in message
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Nunya B. wrote:
Speak for yourself (pot-kettle here).

You are the one speaking for all obese people. You are the one saying its
always doable for everyone and if it isn't it's only because they are weak
and lazy.

I never said they were weak and lazy. Those are your words.

I have decades of firsthand experience as an obese person

I am sure that is unique in this group.

Probably not, and I never said it was.

and pleny of empathy and sympathy for those who are trying to do something
about it.

I don't really care about empathy and sympathy. I care about knowing why
losing weight is so hard. That means the biology top to bottom, of which
we still know very little.

And again I contend that until they develop some kind of gene therapy for
obesity, it only helps to know what works for you as an individual to lose
weight and keep it off. This might take years of trying different things
but if you want it enough you can do it.

What I don't care for are FFID's like yourself who decide to blame the
world and your genetics for your choices.

You are projecting and you have no idea about my choice. I have found my
learning to be very helpful in attaining my own success. The it doesn't
matter approach you have has never worked for me. Actually knowing the
challenges I face is helpful.

But it's ok for you to project to me, got it. Anyway, I've done plenty of
reading and learning. I also know the challenges I face and deal with them.
That's what everyone who wants to lose weight needs to do.


If you prefer the taste of food over being a healthy weight, that's your
CHOICE.

Judgemental, arrogant, and again, projecting.

Speaking for yourself again...

I've spent the last 20 years dealing with at eating disorder that pretty
much dominated my life.

And you think you are the same as everyone else and what works for you
will work for everyone else?

Nope, but then again I'm not the one coming up with a million excuses about
why things won't work. I never said that what I did for me is what will
work for everyone else. Again, it's obvious that if you don't put words in
the mouths of those who disagree with you then you can't seem to make your
case.

I understand what it is like to feel like you're out of control and can't
help yourself probably more than you ever have from reading your
articles.

Should we hug? You apparently know little and want to know even less. For
example, if you understood the relationship of food on your opiate and
dopamine systems that might be revealing. That your body fights back with
leptin and ghrelin and a dozen others chemicals to keep you hungry migh be
revealing. Most people still think hunger is psychological!

And what exactly am I to do with that info besides be absolutely fascinated?
I know that when I'm hungry I need to address it. What works for me is not
to cram a box of oreos down my throat and then complain about my leptin
levels.

I didn't just wake up cured one day.

You aren't cured now. Food is an addiction that doesn't go away.

Very true. I'm in recovery. However, I'm not an addict, I'm a bulimic.
Don't call someone stupid and spell it wrong...

Not everyone is willing to do that.

Why do you think that is? Where's the line? What makes the decision for
different people? If you think it is because people aren't hard workers
you don't know a thing. You know your own pain. Very well. But that
doesn't tell you much else.

I know what I see and observe. I also know that it isn't only because
people aren't hard workers and that life gets in the way. However I also
know that making excuses isn't getting the job done.

Do us both a favor and stop whining about how judgemental people are being
toward you when you're the one who started judging those who you disagreed
with. I am only giving back what you're giving out.
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the volleyballchick