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Old August 3rd, 2012, 10:17 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default Dieting vs. Exercise for Weight Loss

On Aug 3, 3:46*pm, Dogman wrote:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...rcise-for-weig...

"Two groundbreaking new studies address the irksome question of why so
many of us who work out remain so heavy, a concern that carries
special resonance at the moment, as lean Olympians slip through the
air and water, inspiring countless viewers to want to become similarly
sleek.

"And in a just world, frequent physical activity should make us slim.
But repeated studies have shown that many people who begin an exercise
program lose little or no weight. Some gain."

Ahem.

--
Dogman

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman


Of course, as usual, if one reads the actual article instead
of relying on your hysteria, the research doesn't say what
you or even the authors say it does. What the researchers
concluded was this:

"The implication, the scientists concluded, is that “active,
‘traditional’ lifestyles may not protect against obesity if diets
change to promote increased caloric consumption.” That is, even active
people will pack on pounds if they eat like most of us in the West."

This comes as shocking news to you?

Then we have this:


"People stick with low-calorie diets more readily than they continue
with exercise to drop pounds."

Maybe true, but diet hasn't proven successful in stopping the obesity
epidemic either. And following Doggie's logic, both are just an
issue of "personal responsibility" so it's irrelevant how easy or
hard it is to follow.

And this:

"One of the few studies ever to have scrupulously monitored exercise,
food intake and metabolic rates found that volunteers’ basal metabolic
rates dropped as they lost weight, even though they exercised every
day. As a result, although they were burning up to 500 calories during
an exercise session, their total daily caloric burn was lower than it
would have been had their metabolism remained unchanged, and they lost
less weight than had been expected."

Two things worth noting there. Number one is that while excercising
they were burning 500 calories. The other is the statement that this
study is one of the few studies like this ever done. So,
sounds like the answer is we don't know exactly what is going on.
And only a fool would jump to wild conclusions absent a lot of data.
But then Doggie jumps to wild consclusions even when they are
directly contradicted by a mountain of irrefutable studies, so no
surprise there.


And then we end with this gem:

" She is perhaps her own best advertisement. In the past few years,
she’s shed 70 pounds and, using her formulas for how many calories
she’s actually burning each day thanks to a daily walk, has regained
none of it."


I love it when Doggie doesn't comprehend what he's posting.
He does this all the time. He posts some crap thinking it
makes his case for whatever when it actually is directly
opposite his argument. Clearly the article concludes with
the position that excercise is beneficial with regard to
weight loss. The main position is that as one loses weight
it effects metabolism so that it's more difficult to keep
shedding weight as you lose. Something we've talked
about for years here in the group. But perhaps Doggie
missed it.

Anything else I can help you correctly interpret Doggie,
just let me know.....