I find that I agree with Roger Zoul on much of this. He makes a very good
rebuttal.

I would add that in addition to liking fat and seeking the satiety that fat
can produce, one (like myself) may believe that high fat leads to good
health in addition to loss of excess weight. If one cuts carbs sharply, and
then researches and chooses a prudent protein level, fat is the only way to
get the additional calories needed. [-unless you count alcohol as a calorie
choice LOL]

Cubit

"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...
Papa Joe wrote:
:: Hi
:: I read an
::

article(http://www.xposed.com/health/nutriti...ck_amid_low-ca
rb_trend.aspx)
:: that spoke about pasta and how it(companies) is fighting back against
:: low carbing..which is OK.
::
:: But, I find one quote to be disturbing and probably incorrect--I know
:: it is for me anyway--it goes:
::
:: "How is it that it can be called a low-carb diet when in fact it is a
:: dangerous high-fat diet? How can that happen in our culture?" railed
:: K. Dun Gifford, president of the Oldways Preservation Trust, the
:: Boston-based food issues think tank that organized the event."


The statement is incorrect, obviously. LC typically is a high-fat diet.
That part is true. It is also a low-carb diet, so that is true. However,
for most, it is not a dangerous diet at all. It is the so-called standard
American diet that is dangerous, because it comes lots of carbs and lots
of
fat, along with an excess of calories. That combination is a killer.
Also,
for those who do well on a low-carb diet (diabetics and people with
insulin
resistance issues), a low-fat diet can be dangerous too.


::
:: I don't know about others, but I do not find that the foods I eat are
:: any more high fat than those who are not low carbing.

That can be very true. Those who are not low carbing and not eating low
fat
are probably getting plenty of fat and plenty of carbs. You've removed
the
carbs, which result in normalization of BG levels, resulting in reduced
appetite. As are, you're not hungry on fewer calories than previously and
you can lose weight.

Of course, some find that they can still increase fat intake while keeping
calories below that required to maintain their weight. They may be eating
a
greater amount of fat than before (especially if they were trained to be
fat-aware like many in this country were). Yet they can still improve
health and lose weight.

In the absence of excessive carbs and excessive calories, a high-fat diet
is
very likely to not be dangerous.

It's not like we
:: go out of the way to eat fat,

Some do....because they like fat and because they fill it provides
satiety.

but, I would rather think we have a
:: handle on what we eat and we can choose to eat foods that are not fat
:: free.

That works....

:: Heck, we can also choose to eat fat free foods if we want to.

That would be straight protein or high-fiber veggies on a LC diet.

I
:: do and it is fine with me. For example, I drink the low carb milk and
:: the variety I like best is the low fat version....not a bad thing
:: because it is low fat, I just happen to like it best.
::
:: I think that some people are really stretching this food thing and
:: the
:: right of someone to choose to know what they are eating a bit out of
:: control....and to be part of a "Boston-based food issues think tank"
:: no less.
::

I don't know what you're saying there.

:: Well, I just wanted to share the idea and article. (here is the
:: website of the organization http://www.oldwayspt.org/ ).
::
:: Sure, I don't eat ketchup, drink cranberry juice, both of which need
:: so much sugar to be palatable, but does that make me part of a fad
:: diet? So what if I eat bread that is classified low carb--maybe the
:: slices are 50% thinner than 'regular' bread--does that make it 'bad'?
::
:: Having been on low/almost no-fat for an extended period of time
:: during
:: which I lost quite a bit of arm and leg muscle, I find the extremes
:: to
:: be problems. However, blending what I consider to be the best of
:: foods
:: out there, which may include low carb components, not to be bad
:: thing. I have been doing low carb since July 22nd and find it not to
:: be a challenge to stay on induction at all. In fact, it is hard to
:: move from it as I do not have really good self control! Five carbs a
:: a
:: week increase is not easy to pull off.
::
:: Probably should not be as touchy.
::
:: FWIW.
:: Joe
::
:: ps, I know about the cranberry and ketchup as I made a batch of
:: each--once--and was so amazed at how much sugar it took to make them
:: both...I told .my dad, who was into maturity onset diabetes and into
:: cranberry juice, because it was 'good for the kidneys' that it was
:: not so good for the diabetes....He also liked ketchup on his
:: hamburgers and french fries(couldn't blame him there)....he passed
:: away at 80 with his first and only heart attack. He enjoyed food and
:: I
:: am glad he did.
::
::
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