Ignoramus14701 wrote:
In article , PJx wrote:

I agree with you. And so does several million others who went from
low-fat to low-carb high protein/fat and consumed double the calories
and started losing weight.


Did you see this study? Kids put on a low carb diet ate 60% more and
lost more weight. The study was randomized.

Did you read the study extract? The "60% more" was compared to the
1100 calorie diet of the other group. 60% more only amounts to 1780
calories total. Not 2000, not 2500, and certainly not 3000 or 5000 or
"unlimited fat" as being claimed in this thread.

It also says their foods were limited to meat, cheese, eggs, poultry
and fish, and a couple of salads a day. No bowls of whipped cream
or LC shakes with half a cup of heavy cream added. No sugarfree
desserts and junkfoods, no LC products. The majority of excess fats
that stall LCers come from snacks and desserts that weren't on their
menus, except for cheese (and the extract doesn't mention whether
snacking between meals was allowed or prohibited).

One may be able to eat somewhat more calories on LC than on low-fat
and lose, but there is absolutely nothing to suggest that one can
eat unlimited fat and lose, or fail to gain.


Sondike S, Jacobson, Copperman. The ketogenic diet increases weight
loss but not cardiovascular risk: A randomized controlled trial. J
Adolescent Health Care 2000; 26: 91.

Schneider Children?s Hospital in New Hyde Park, N.Y

This study was conducted on overweight children aged 12 to 18. They
were between 20 and 100 pounds overweight. The children were split
into two groups. One group ate a conventional low-fat, carbohydrate
based "slimming" diet composed of whole grains, fruits and vegetables
with fat-free dairy products, low-fat meats, poultry and fish. Their
total intake was limited to 1,100 calories per day. The other group
ate a high-fat, low-carb diet in which they were allowed to eat as
many calories as they wanted in the form of untrimmed meat, cheese,
eggs, poultry and fish. Their carbohydrates came from two salads a
day and minimal other carbs.

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