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Old March 18th, 2009, 11:37 AM posted to soc.support.fat-acceptance,misc.consumers,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
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Default CNN article: Low-fat? Low-carbs? Answering best diet question

On Mar 17, 11:28*pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
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On Mar 17, 4:00 pm, Kaz Kylheku wrote:

On 2009-03-17, AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:


for those of you who believe in evolution, just think what your
forebearers
ate: lots of veggies & fruit they gathered, and all the meat they could
hunt
down.


In other words, /lean/ protein, carbohydrates, and exercise.


they did not farm grains, which are the main carbs of our diet.


Not only that, but farming is also a main source of animal and vegetable
fat.


I don't think they had any grains similar to what we have today to
farm, even if they could. * * The grains we have today only exist
because they were selected and developed to produce the grains. *Like
they started with some grain that was small, almost useless or
inedible. * *Then they'd find an abnormally large one, or a tastey
one, or hopefully both and save the seed and replant it, continuing
that process for God knows how long, until they had the big, useable
grains that emerged in the last few thousand years. *That process is
how a type of grass became corn in Mexico.

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Other than corn, the wild ancestors of our domestic grains still exist.


It's not a question of whether they exist. The question is, how much
does it yield, how much grain do you get from a single plant, how
tastey/edible is it, how easy is it to grow compared to what we farm
today, etc. I suspect the answer is that plants growing in the wild
are significantly different than grains we grow today and that
difference would limit how much would be available, how much could be
consumed, and the nutrient content that someone living off the wild
plant would get.

Everything we have has been developed to significantly enhance and
change it over the time it's been cultivated by man. How about
something like an apple? If a hunter-gatherer was lucky enough to
find one, how do you think the sugar content, size, resistance to
disease /insects that might have destroyed it before it was harvested,
etc would compare to the ones we have today? And then top that off by
the fact that you can buy the juice today off the shelf and get the
juice from God knows how many apples cultivated to be high in sugar in
one easy delivery system. That's a big difference from how apples
may have been part of a diet of hunter gatherers.


They happen to be a useable size in their wild form. *The primitives
gathered everything that was edible, fruits, veggies, SEEDS (which grains
generally happen to be), and nuts.

Corn is a real mystery as it is unclear how it might have developed. *No one
has yet figured out what it came from.

To get interesting information on grains, their use and the eventual
metamorphosis to farming, the book "Guns, Germs, and Steel" is an
interesting read.