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Old December 17th, 2007, 02:35 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Default How to not feel hungry all the time..

On Dec 16, 7:39 am, "Cubit" wrote:
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I inadvertantly discovered something when I was dieting. Although I
managed to lose down to a very slim and trim 136 pounds which is right
where I should be, but I learned how to control hunger. The secret?
Fiber. Fiber has to be eased in to though. You can't comfortably start
eating 500% of the minimum recommended fiber without suffering
bloating, etc. But you can build up to it very easily.


The advantage of fiber is very simple: It is filling, yet has NO
calories. In fact, that is the definition of fiber. It cannot be
digested by humans. Even though a deer or a cow would find calories in
certain human dietary fiber, we cannot, so it is free food in that
regard. Almost all foods that are high fiber are also low calorie.
Green beans are loaded with fiber...25% of your daily minimum in one
can, and only 70 calories. The calories come from the protein and
carbs. Oh yes, one point. When you buy metamucil or other fibers in a
drugstore or supermarket, there are calories listed. Why? Well, it
isn't pure fiber. There are sweetners, carbs, protein and fat along
for the ride....but when a label lists fiber, those grams of product
have 0 calories.


Besides high fiber, it also helps a lot to drink lots of water. Tea,
diet soda, etc. work as well, but the caffeine might be a problem.


I presently eat about 500% of the daily recommended min. fiber
recommendation and I simply do not get hungry.


Here is a short list of high-fiber foods...some plain, some processed,
but all very high fiber (for the calories). Lots of vegetables like
celery do not seem to be high-fiber, until you determine the fiber as
a percentage of calories. Then celery jumps way up. You get most of
the fiber from whole grains like puffed wheat, oatmeal, and products
like Fiber One (original) where a half cup has 57% of the min. fiber
recommendation and only 60 calories. All vegetables are good, but
broccoli and cauliflower are very good and green beans are the most
concentrated fiber (for the calories). Basically you can eat like a
gorilla if you eat those low cal, high fiber veggies, but you will
stay as slim and trim as a mink. Every dieter should consider this
option, unless you are satisfied eating very small amounts of high-
fat, high calorie foods, and still manage to ward off the hunger and
constipation that would likely result. dkw


How long have you been using this regimen?

Oh, and BTW, a high fat diet does not produce constipation. There are some
reports of those who tried to do high protein low fat and low carb at the
same time who had constipation problems.

The reason I was wondering how long you used very high fiber is that my info
has been that the body recognizes the caloric value of food after several
weeks. In such a case I would expect that one would tend to eat increasing
volumes of the fiber dense foods over time.

The Paleo diet folk believe greenbeans to be unhealthy.- Hide quoted text -

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No, perhaps high-fat doesn't produce constipation, but if you eat a
lot of fat, then you do not get to eat much of anything else and stay
within your alloted calories, and the lack of bulk including fiber
becomes a problem. In other words, fat has over twice the calories of
carbs and protein, so right away you would be eating less than half as
much food by weight. Next high-fat foods are also low fiber foods. In
fact, meat has no fiber. Fiber comes from vegetables and fruit which
are low-cal overall. I think that is the connection. Now could you
just eat a lot of fat, then eat some fiber and everything be ok with
digestion? I really don't know. Perhaps. Of course the thing that
really causes constipation are calcium (milk and cheese products) and
iron.

I do know you need to ease into high-fiber. I routinely eat 500% of my
daily min. requirement of fiber with no side effects. I do take long
walks with the dog, but she never complains. If someone went from low
fiber to high fiber overnight, they would experience distress though.
I think the problem has to do with the soluble fiber which produces
gas. I assume what happens is that the flora in the gut change somehow
to accomodate this high fiber in a few days, but that's a guess.

I have never heard green beans being bad for a person. I would have to
hear the argument. If they cause you to swell up like a balloon and go
POP, I suppose that could be bad though....sort of like the restaurant
skit from Monty Python....only in his case it was "one thin mint".