On May 29, 2:51*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:16:37 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:

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We all know that people are going to return to eating
what they like, within the limits their surgery permits.
And there isn't anything I'm aware of in these patients
long term diets that says it has to be LC.
Given that whatever is ocurring is
still there at 10 years, I don't think the balance of evidence
supports that this reversal in diabetes is due to LC.

According to the Mayo Clinic site on post-bariatric surgery:

"Weight gain or failure to lose weight. If you continue to gain weight
or fail to lose weight on the gastric bypass diet, it's possible you
could be eating too many calories. Talk to your doctor or dietitian
about changes you can make to your diet."

That falls into the "No ****, Red Ryder?" category, I think.

So even after the operation, patients still need to learn how to eat
properly. They can't rely on the "mystery" of the operation itself.

I can see how you're so easily confused. Nothing in that
cite you posted above in any way supports the conclusion
you just stated. And we're all still waiting for the reference
that says the bariatric diet is LC a year, two, or 10 years after
the surgery. What you just posted justs helps support the
argument that something other than LC is responsible for
the myserious reversal in diabetes.



Maybe if more time had been invested in that approach from the get-go,
the patient might have been able to avoid the surgery (and all those
adverse side effects) in the first place.


Sigh. Might as well just say that if there were no obese people,
there would be no obese people. It's been made abundantly
clear that the vast majority of people are unable to stay with
any diet, including LC for the long term.