On Wed, 30 May 2012 15:53:56 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
wrote:

Dogman wrote:
" wrote:

So, once again, since this diet only lasts for a few weeks,
how can you claim that it's a LC diet, not something to do
with the surgical bypass that completely reverses diabetes
forever in these patients. It doesn't get much simpler than
that. Capiche?

Until you can explain to me what these "mysterious" effects are, and
how they work, etc., I'm going with Ockham's Razor.

It's possible that the surgery causes effects not seen in folks put on
the same diet without the surgery.

Many things are possible, but until someone can fully explain how and
why these "mysterious" effects work, I'm not buying it.

The point is, and always has been, that a low-carb diet can affect the
same changes that gastric-bypass surgery sees. And without all the
nasty side effects. And is certainly worth a try.

I don't get why folks aren't placed on the post-surgery diet long before
they go under the knife.

Ditto. But maybe the answer to that question is self-evident.

"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

One reason? *Doug's not an asshole!

In person I do okay with folks thinking I'm nice. I've never been able
to pull that off on-line. On-line you are in the minority. I suggest
it's only in comparison to a few others that has you thinking that.

Well, I've never seen you treat anyone poorly here, so you're not an
asshole, in my opinion. Hell, you may beat your dog and root for the
Cubs, for all I know.

[...]
That's always been the greatest weakness of low carbing. The greatest
strength of low carbing to me is that few are hungry while on it unlike
most other plans. The greatest weakness of low carbing is that one
high carb meal can turn the cravings back on and it often takes the same
effort to get back on that it took the first time.

Tru dat. BTDT. But I've also learned more ways to deal with it, too.
So I'm not long off the wagon, maybe a few days.

I would love a pill that works like anabuse. One bite of high carb food
and the vomitting starts.

Heh.

--
Dogman

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman