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Old July 10th, 2007, 08:13 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Bill Eitner[_2_]
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Default Is there a good external scale to measure health???

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On Jul 10, 2:07 am, Bill Eitner wrote:
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On Jul 7, 11:13 pm, Bill Eitner wrote:
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On Jul 5, 10:03 pm, Bill Eitner wrote:
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Ok.. I just kept wondering if there was actually some product devised
to measure health..
Yes, it's called a medical examination.
It does not seem impossible though....
Something that can meter
1. Breathing quality
2. Weight
3. Height
4. Strength
Just guessing
Don't confuse health and fitness.
It's possible to be healthy and unfit
or fit and unhealthy. Health in the
most basic sense is the absence of disease,
whereas fitness is performance oriented.
Treat the two (health and fitness) as
separate entities with separate gauging
criteria.
I surely understand that.. I was just wondering about a device being
able to measure both...
If you understand that health and fitness are
separate yet are seeking a single device/test
for both, you are in conflict/contradiction.
There will never be such a device because there
are too many variables.
This will surely be a wish list for the scientists to come up with a
compact device... that's able to measure that..
Devices exist that help gauge both health and
fitness. However, health and fitness are complex
and require multiple tests. For example, blood
pressure and blood glucose after an overnight
fast are measures of health. Resting pulse is
a measure of both cardiovascular health and fitness.
These three tests as well as body temperature can
all be performed by the patient/client using
compact devices. Bodyweight, BMI, body composition
(bodyfat percentage), and waist/hip ratio can
all be calculated by the client (do-it-yourself)
using compact devices. There's also a lot to be said
for simply asking yourself how you feel. Are you
pain-free and able-bodied? Can you do the things
you want to do? Can you do everything you feel
a person your age should be able to do? A single,
non-invasive test can never hope to encompass all
of that.
Hmm humans are tooooooo good ... I am sure that it is not easy to
device one.. But nothing is impossible.. When man invent devices that
can go to different galaxies. This is just a small thing.

It's nice that you have faith in man and an upbeat
attitude, but many physics limitations in our universe
are a long way from being solved or worked around.
Many who are in the know feel that some are just
too vast to ever be solved. A book you might want
to read is: "The Physics of Star Trek." It gets
into the realities of developing warp drive,
transporter technology, and maybe even the medical
scanning devices that were used in the show. It's
been a while since I read it. To summarize, in the
areas of communications and computers we've met and/or
exceeded the technology of the original series. In
the areas of space travel, local travel (transporter),
weapons, shielding, and medical technology we aren't
much closer than we were 40 years ago when the original
series aired. The problems in those areas are just
too daunting. The laws of physics stand in the way
and are just too big to ever be moved out of the way.
Don't take my word for it, read the book and see if you
don't feel differently about this after you've read it.

The thing is there's not much of awareness about this requirement. If
there was one I am sure it would have been there in the market. The
problem now days are that people invest into ideas that sell

You don't think a device like that would sell or that
a dozen companies would jump at the chance to manufacture
such a device if the technology existed?

Such a device does exist--it's called a pulse monitor
(or even a wrist or stop watch). If you're going to
rely on one test, it might as well be resting pulse.
Average is 72 beats per minute. Anything under 60
is considered athletic and quite healthy. For example,
Lance Armstrong the champion cyclist is said to have a
resting pulse of 40 or even less. At the other end,
anything over 100 raises a flag.

Here's an excerpt from an article on pulse testing:

Why It Is Done

Your pulse is checked to:

* See how well the heart is working. In an emergency situation,
your pulse rate can help find out if the heart is pumping enough blood.
* Help find the cause of symptoms, such as an irregular or rapid
heartbeat (palpitations), dizziness, fainting, chest pain, or shortness
of breath.
* Check for blood flow after an injury or when a blood vessel may
be blocked.
* Check on medicines or diseases that cause a slow heart rate. Your
doctor may ask you to check your pulse every day if you have heart
disease or if you are taking certain medicines that can slow your heart
rate, such as digoxin or beta-blockers (like propranolol or atenolol).

(And here's the one that's of most interest to you)

* Check your general health and fitness level. Checking your pulse
rate at rest, during exercise, or immediately after vigorous exercise
can give you important information about your overall fitness level.

Here's the entire article:
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/Pulse-Measurement

Great article .. I never knew having a pulse below 60 is good
health....

You mean slower the heart rate better is the health..


In general, yes. The ideal example is a person who through
diet, exercise and stress management sees a decrease in their
resting heart rate. The decrease in resting heart rate over
time is an indication of improved health and fitness as is
their improved potential for physical performance and body
composition.

COool..

LD