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Old July 13th, 2007, 01:57 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Default Is there a good external scale to measure health???

On Jul 11, 12:13 am, Bill Eitner wrote:
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Ok.. I just kept wondering if there was actually some product devised
to measure health..
Yes, it's called a medical examination.
It does not seem impossible though....
Something that can meter
1. Breathing quality
2. Weight
3. Height
4. Strength
Just guessing
Don't confuse health and fitness.
It's possible to be healthy and unfit
or fit and unhealthy. Health in the
most basic sense is the absence of disease,
whereas fitness is performance oriented.
Treat the two (health and fitness) as
separate entities with separate gauging
criteria.
I surely understand that.. I was just wondering about a device being
able to measure both...
If you understand that health and fitness are
separate yet are seeking a single device/test
for both, you are in conflict/contradiction.
There will never be such a device because there
are too many variables.
This will surely be a wish list for the scientists to come up with a
compact device... that's able to measure that..
Devices exist that help gauge both health and
fitness. However, health and fitness are complex
and require multiple tests. For example, blood
pressure and blood glucose after an overnight
fast are measures of health. Resting pulse is
a measure of both cardiovascular health and fitness.
These three tests as well as body temperature can
all be performed by the patient/client using
compact devices. Bodyweight, BMI, body composition
(bodyfat percentage), and waist/hip ratio can
all be calculated by the client (do-it-yourself)
using compact devices. There's also a lot to be said
for simply asking yourself how you feel. Are you
pain-free and able-bodied? Can you do the things
you want to do? Can you do everything you feel
a person your age should be able to do? A single,
non-invasive test can never hope to encompass all
of that.
Hmm humans are tooooooo good ... I am sure that it is not easy to
device one.. But nothing is impossible.. When man invent devices that
can go to different galaxies. This is just a small thing.
It's nice that you have faith in man and an upbeat
attitude, but many physics limitations in our universe
are a long way from being solved or worked around.
Many who are in the know feel that some are just
too vast to ever be solved. A book you might want
to read is: "The Physics of Star Trek." It gets
into the realities of developing warp drive,
transporter technology, and maybe even the medical
scanning devices that were used in the show. It's
been a while since I read it. To summarize, in the
areas of communications and computers we've met and/or
exceeded the technology of the original series. In
the areas of space travel, local travel (transporter),
weapons, shielding, and medical technology we aren't
much closer than we were 40 years ago when the original
series aired. The problems in those areas are just
too daunting. The laws of physics stand in the way
and are just too big to ever be moved out of the way.
Don't take my word for it, read the book and see if you
don't feel differently about this after you've read it.


The thing is there's not much of awareness about this requirement. If
there was one I am sure it would have been there in the market. The
problem now days are that people invest into ideas that sell
You don't think a device like that would sell or that
a dozen companies would jump at the chance to manufacture
such a device if the technology existed?


Such a device does exist--it's called a pulse monitor
(or even a wrist or stop watch). If you're going to
rely on one test, it might as well be resting pulse.
Average is 72 beats per minute. Anything under 60
is considered athletic and quite healthy. For example,
Lance Armstrong the champion cyclist is said to have a
resting pulse of 40 or even less. At the other end,
anything over 100 raises a flag.


Here's an excerpt from an article on pulse testing:


Why It Is Done


Your pulse is checked to:


* See how well the heart is working. In an emergency situation,
your pulse rate can help find out if the heart is pumping enough blood.
* Help find the cause of symptoms, such as an irregular or rapid
heartbeat (palpitations), dizziness, fainting, chest pain, or shortness
of breath.
* Check for blood flow after an injury or when a blood vessel may
be blocked.
* Check on medicines or diseases that cause a slow heart rate. Your
doctor may ask you to check your pulse every day if you have heart
disease or if you are taking certain medicines that can slow your heart
rate, such as digoxin or beta-blockers (like propranolol or atenolol).


(And here's the one that's of most interest to you)


* Check your general health and fitness level. Checking your pulse
rate at rest, during exercise, or immediately after vigorous exercise
can give you important information about your overall fitness level.


Here's the entire article:
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/Pulse-Measurement


Great article .. I never knew having a pulse below 60 is good
health....


You mean slower the heart rate better is the health..


In general, yes. The ideal example is a person who through
diet, exercise and stress management sees a decrease in their
resting heart rate. The decrease in resting heart rate over
time is an indication of improved health and fitness as is
their improved potential for physical performance and body
composition.


Here is something I found

Power Yoga
Power yoga is a derivative of flow or astanga yoga. It is a continuous
sequence of asanas with an emphasis on developing awareness and
control of the breath. This leads to increased will power, clarity of
thought, and self confidence.

Asanas are not thought to be invented by a human but are the gift of
Lord Siva, who originally described 8,400,000 poses. Of this
knowledge, only a scant few remain.
Power yoga is designed to improve the health of the spine, posture and
lower back as well as to balance and strengthen the nervous system and
focus the mind.

When you improve the way energy flows in your body, you change the way
your energy interacts with other people's energy. You change the way
you think and feel about yourself, and the way that others think and
feel about you.

Slow Deep & Restorative Yoga
Slow deep poses help relieve the effects of chronic stress in several
ways. First, the use of props provides a supportive environment for
total relaxation. As well as the use of gravity for developing the
experience of surrender.
Second, each slow deep sequence is designed to move the spine in all
directions. These movements illustrate the age-old wisdom of yoga that
teaches well-being is enhanced by a healthy spine. Some of the slow
deep stretch poses are backbends, while others are forward bends.
Additional poses gently twist the column both left and right.
Third, a slow deep restorative practice usually includes an inverted
pose, which reverses the effects of gravity. This can be as simple as
putting the legs on a bolster or pillow, but the effects are quite
dramatic. Because we stand or sit most of the day, blood and lymph
fluid accumulate in the lower extremities. By changing the
relationship of the legs to gravity, fluids are returned to the upper
body and heart function is enhanced.
Psychobiologist and yoga teacher Roger Cole, Ph.D., consultant to the
University of California, San Diego, in sleep research and biological
rhythms, has done preliminary research on the effects of inverted
poses. He found that they dramatically alter hormone levels, thus
reducing brain arousal, blood pressure, and fluid retention. He
attributes these benefits to a slowing of the heart rate and dilation
of the blood vessels in the upper body that comes from reversing the
effects of gravity.
Fourth, restorative yoga alternately stimulates and soothes the
organs. For example, by closing the abdomen with a forward bend and
then opening it with a backbend, the abdominal organs are squeezed,
forcing the blood out, and then opened, so that fresh blood returns to
soak the organs. With this movement of blood comes the enhanced
exchange of oxygen and waste products across the cell membrane
Finally, yoga teaches that the body is permeated with energy. Prana,
the masculine energy, resides above the diaphragm, moves upward, and
controls respiration and heart rate. Apana, the feminine energy,
resides below the diaphragm, moves downward, and controls the function
of the abdominal organs. Atma yoga balances these two aspects of
energy so that the practitioner is neither overstimulated nor
depleted.
All of this is of course magnified by the use of breath control,
particularly by extending the exhalation.

Kundalini yoga
Kundalini yoga is a practice for mechanically rewiring the way energy
moves through your body, through your chakras, and through your aura.
This is accomplished through intensive kriyas (activities/exercises)
which are combinations of asanas (yoga postures), pranayama (breathing
techniques), mudras (gestures), bandas (energy locks), and mantras
(sacred sound vibrations).

It is considered a very fast acting yoga. It strongly conditions and
strengthens the nervous system. It is a yoga for modern spiritual
warriors.
The origins of Kundalini yoga are ancient, said to be originated by
Kartikeya, son of Lord Siva. They are secrets, only talked about
recently. The full essence of it remains hidden. Preliminary
descriptions of it can be found in the Gherad Samhita, Siva Samhita,
and Kundalini Upanishad.

Hope you will enjoy reading it..

LD