On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:25:22 -0700 (PDT), "
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To me the issue is like wheat or carbs or whatever. *Few are willing to
do an organized eliminate-and-challenge system to figure out what
actually causes their problems. *So they eliminate some class of foods,
get a benefit, and think the entire class was the problem. *or they
eliminate some class of foods, get a benefit, and thank everyone will
get the same benefit.

Doug, if people automatically refrained from eating all the foods that
they MIGHT be sensitive to, they wouldn't have anything to eat.

Talk about strawmen, this is a classic. Doug didn't
say people should refrain from eating foods they might
have sensitivity issues with. He said they should do an
eliminate/challenge approach to find out what they have
issues with.

That's not a straw man (really, you should look up that term in your
Funk & Wagnall). It's just an add-on to Doug's add-on comments,
comments that I generally agreed with.

But the point of the article was to inform that nitrates, etc.,
shouldn't be avoided due to fears of cancer and heart attacks. I
didn't want to see that IMPORTANT point lost.

What an idiot you are.

It
should be implied that no one should eat something that he or she is
actually sensitive or allergic to, but there's no reason beyond that
to avoid foods that contain nitrates and nitrites, for example, a fear
of cancer, heart attack, etc. In fact, doing so may actually be
counterproductive to one's health.

And that was the point of the article.

And this coming from the guy who gave us a lecture
just a week ago about Carbquik. Remember that
dogman?

I have no idea what those two things have to do with each other.

And I don't give lectures. I offer advice and information.

Take it or leave it.

You said I was an idiot and would ruin my
health

That's not a straw man, either, it's just a freakin' lie, which seem
to be coming faster and faster from you lately. Yes, you're a freakin'
liar.

if I didn't do blood glucose testing and blood
lipid testing to find out my personal response to
Carbquik.

You should do it only if you want to know what it's doing to your
blood sugars, and whether you care what it may be doing to your LDL-P
numbers (not that you even know what LDL-P numbers are). Since your
apparent strategy is to just get sick, then take medicine or have an
operation, rather than PREVENT disease in the first place, I would
never expect you to test much of anything. Unless it's how many
poppers you can inhale without dying, or something like that.

Even though I made it clear I eat maybe a few
Carbquik pancakes a week and am not diabetic.

And since being diabetic is irrelevant, because the damage is done to
us all, yes, whether we're diabetic or not, or for how many years
you've been eating wheat, the only thing that you've ever made clear
to me is that you're a freakin' idiot.

And as if that is even possible, to find a lipid difference in
a diet where 99.99% of what I'm eating is not Carbquik.

Sheesh. It doesn't matter. The damage is done over time. It's
accumulative. Like smoking.

But this week, it's OK to eat anything, including those
nitrites, as long as you're not sensitive or having an
alergic reaction. Go figure.

Yeah, go figure. Then see if you can find a clue.

I won't be holding my breath.

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about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman