The Atkins shakes look promising as a possible bedtime snack but right
now I'm trying to stay off the fake sweeteners too. My personal theory
is that insulin will react even to stuff that just tastes sweet, even
if it doesn't have carbs, and I don't need that right now. Chewing gum
makes me hungry, so does diet soda. So I've cut them all out ::sigh::.

I think you're wrong about the insulin reacting "even to stuff that just
tastes sweet", though. After all, we are talking about chemicals and
chemical reactions, not just "feelings" when it comes to insulin. My
insulin doesn't react to the Splenda at all. The Atkins shakes have much
less sweetener than the Glucerna stuff, IIRC.

Pat in TX