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Old September 27th, 2012, 11:14 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Dogman
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Default Weight loss is just the start!

On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:54:56 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sep 27, 2:56*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:03:38 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:
On Sep 27, 1:27*pm, Dogman wrote:
http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2012/0...ust-the-start/


"In the month since I started, I ve lost twelve pounds so far. The
most remarkable thing for me, though -and I wasn t really expecting
it -is that after the first week of being completely grain-free,


I'll bet it's not just grain free, but actually that it's a LC
diet,


And you know this...how, exactly, Dr. Carnac?

crickets


Well, the very website that you constantly keep boring us with
and posting links to, as if it were some great new discovery:

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2011/1...ick-and-dirty/

[...]
Sure looks very similar to Atkins, South Beach or many other
LC, reduced carb diets.


Yes, the Davis diet is low-carb, but the guy whose anecdote we're
discussing, says NADA about being on a low-carb diet. He eliminated
wheat (all grains, actually), and ate only "whole, fresh foods as much
as possible." I don't know exactly what he means by that, and neither
do you, Dr. Carnac. (He also implies that's he's tried low-carb diets
before, and didn't enjoy these same benefits.) But many others on his
web site have simply eliminated wheat. Period. And got similar
results.

You can read the testimonials for yourself.

I've never heard of anyone losing just 12 pounds and ridding
themselves of migraines, GERD, post-nasal drip, allergies, arthritis
in his hands and fingers, etc. (He also implies that's he's tried
low-carb diets before, and didn't enjoy these same benefits.)

But you have no idea what wheat may be doing to your blood sugars
because you don't TEST.


That's right. Just like so many others that I've seen here
in the newsgroup the last decade that are not diabetic, I
do LC without testing my BG. It has never even been
discussed as some kind of requirement, until you showed
up.


No one talked about low-carb until Dr. Atkins "showed up," eh?

And I've never said that it is a requirement. That's just another one
of your many straw men. Really, you are to straw men what Saudi Arabia
is to oil.

You also have no idea what effects wheat may be having on YOU, because
you've never known life without wheat.

And over time, elevated blood sugars can cause diabetes, elevated
LDL-P counts, heart attacks, strokes, fibromyalgia, blindness, etc.

As I reflected in a previous post, millions of people with diabetes do
NOT know they have diabetes.

They, not unlike yourself, prefer to unscrew the engine warning lights
in their "cars."

Good luck with that!

Gee, and I still eat some wheat. *Imagine that!


That's your choice, of course, but others may decide to pursue a much
different way of eating. A healthier way of eating.


I have a couple slices of Pepperidge farms CarbStyle bread,
with a whopping 5g of carb per slice and it's unhealthy?


That basically depends on what it does to your blood glucose levels,
and how often it does it, and for how long you allow it to go on.
Since you don't have a clue (in more ways than one, eh?), you have no
idea whether it's unhealthy for you or not, which, I understand, is
how you prefer it.

Healthier according to whom? You?


I've answered that question already.

"The same guy that
says HIV is harmless? The guy that says HIV doesn't cause
AIDS? The guy that claims no virus can cause cancer?
Given what you think is sound science, why would anyone listen
to you?


Well, if they want to PREVENT disease, I'm a pretty good guy to listen
to.

On the other hand, if they'd rather take drugs, get injected on a
daily basis, die prematurely, suffer illness, spend a good part of
their lives in doctors' offices, etc., "You da man!"

Do you have to shill multiple times a *day for the wheat
belly book?


Do you have to shill multiple times a day for a very, very sloppy way
of low-carb eating? Or for BigPharma? Or for ADM? Or for AIDS, Inc?


I'm not the one starting post after post here,


So what? You can't even make a post without mentioning AIDS.

You've effectively been reduced to a one-trick pony.

And I get a big kick out of that!

many of them about this wheat belly crap.


And the best part of that?

You can't do a freakin' thing about it!

And I'm not the one with the compelling need
to have the last say on virtually every topic.


Me neither, but I'm willing to respond to questions, etc., and as long
as someone has one, I'll take a crack at it.

But most importantly, I'm more than willing to keep kicking you in the
teeth each time you gnaw on my ankles. I consider it a moral
obligation, in fact.

Go back and look at
who
has started most of the posts for the last few months and who ends
almost
every one.


I've started most of them, of course. But then, I can't force anyone
to introduce a subject or post information here, so...

It didn't used to be like that, until you showed up.


Yeah, it was mostly DEAD here. And you probably had a hand in KILLING
it.

And that's probably what you'd prefer.

Well, guess again.

Asshole.

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Dogman

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about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman