On Feb 4, 6:14 am, "Beverly" wrote:
janice wrote:
On 3 Feb 2007 14:03:54 -0800, "Caleb" wrote:

On Feb 2, 9:56 pm, "SFrunner" wrote:
On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, "

wrote:
On Feb 1, 3:37 pm, "Caleb" wrote:

This is an invitation to anyone who would like to join
alt.support.diet.low-calorie - I've started another 100 Day Diet and
am posting on alt-support.diet.low-calorie. Seems to be going quite
well and I sure intend to keep posting through May and maybe
(hopefully) longer.

If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!

Yours,

Caleb

Day 32 - 19 pounds gone

Please tell us what has been your average daily calorie intake in the
last week. Thanks.

Please don't. If you want to really know, Google his posts from past
years. It's always the same and some of us are sick and tired of the
BS.

SFRunner -- May I suggest you use your block sender button if you
don't like my posts?

This "some of us are sick and tired" sounds quite childish and makes
use of a logical fallacy called "the band wagon effect."

Seems to me that some people are very, very quick to criticize
others.

Caleb

Caleb - ISTR that it was you who started asd.low-calorie for the very
reason that people here were not able to relate to your approach to
dieting and weight loss.

Surely then it's not unreasonable to expect you to restrict your
postings to that group if you want to continue repeating your 100 day
regime.

janice

I agree, janice.

Caleb,
I always tried to be civil in my replies to you. But I find it very hard to
understand why someone would want to continue on the yo-yo diet path as long
as you have. You may contend that it's healthier than remaining overweight
but I'll suggest that it's healthier to work to maintain that weight loss.

Isn't your weight at the beginning of this cycle higher than it was in
previous attempts? IIRC your previous highs were in the 240 range and I
believe it's 265 this time. You indicate your goal weight is 200. If
that's correct then you're trying to lose 65 pounds in 100 days and that
isn't considered a healthy weightloss rate. Your previous choice of food
during your 100 days wasn't real healthy either. I seem to recall it
contained a lot of tuna or sardines and cabbage soup. A few of the
exercises you chose weren't considered exactly safe. I'm referring to
carrying and swinging weights while walking.

You're a well educated man but you fail to see the problems associated with
your diet choices. As many others in the group have suggested you might
want to use the group you setup for this type of dieting as it's not well
received in this type of group. In the past you preached your diet to many
who were just starting their weightloss journey and were eager to grab onto
anything that would allow rapid weight loss instead of choosing a method
that would allow them to lose at a sensible rate and have a much better
chance of maintaining their weightloss. There are many health risks
associated with a rapid weightloss. You might want to consider these risks
against your yo-yo diet plan.

Beverly
177/142/~140 SINCE 1996

I guess one reason I'm cheerful is that weight loss is straightforward
-- especially if one chooses an effective approach and sticks with
it.

There are a variety of reasons not to stick to an effective approach,
and these reasons include people telling you that your approach is
stupid, that it will not work, that it flies in the face of accepted,
methods, etc., etc., etc.

Such statements are too often toxic to those trying to lose weight and
to get themselves healthier in a variety of ways. The old line --
"everybody knows" -- has been proven wrong time and again. Everybody
just doesn't know effective and accurate methods. Going through some
of the inaccurate advice I have heard on this list -- even from those
who were apparently quite respected here -- would not be useful.

If you don't like what I am saying, you can employ a killfile/block
sender option.

I hope that our ends are the same -- to be healthier and to support
others as they continue in the long and difficult journey to health.

A thousand roads lead to health -- or at least a lot of roads do.

Actually, I feel very good about the methods I have used. Almost every
single time I have tried this approach I have lost large amounts of
weight and I have done so without much emotional turmoil. No second
guessing, half-way measures.

You probably are aware how difficult it is for many people to lose
significant amounts of weight. Many, many try and most don't make it.
The general approached I take clearly have effectively worked for me
in the past and they are working for me again. They will work this way
in the future. While people may not want to employ them, perhaps one
or two of the techniques might be useful. And if not then this might
be a demonstration that not every posting is helpful to every single
reader.

I think several of my views (e.g., ignoring the distractive and
possibly bad advice of others, doing what works for you regardless of
shrill criticism by others, being "good enough for long enough" to
work meaningful health change, etc.) are not common here but surely
will be helpful to those trying to lose weight. Not only can too many
cooks spoil the broth, but too many people giving advice can lead
people to maintaining their extra poundage.

One of the reasons (I think) some people react so viscerally to my
posts is that I have been able to adhere to a variety of techniques
that result in weight loss and then I stick to them long enough to
lose weight and be healthy, and I post the details of my journey as I
go along. I don't know anyone else here who has done so in such fine
detail on an ongoing basis. I also have stuck with my plan (e.g., I am
not going to try new diets as larger varieties of food make me eat
more, I am not going to boost my daily calorie intake in the unproved
and false expectation that eating more calories will allow me to lose
more weight, etc.) and perhaps that has irritated others who want to
give advice.

But a lot of the time the words that should come out of our keyboards
should be: "Hey, that's terrific!" Well done! Keep it up! You're doing
great!" And words such as that are too rare from some of the
Usenetters here. We find flaws in the approaches of others and demean
the intentions and progress that others make IF IT DOESN'T COMPORT TO
OUR OWN NARROW STANDARDS OF WHAT PROGRESS IS.

I do not write these posts to irritate you or anyone else but to
support those going on their difficult journey.

I'd be happy to discuss any aspect of my approach to weight loss with
anyone who is asking a serious question. This topic is too important
to shut out voices that may be helpful.

Caleb