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Old May 5th, 2006, 11:09 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.nutrition,alt.support.diet
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Default Increasing evidence supports carb diets for weight loss and improvement in cardiovascular disease (CVD);

On 5 May 2006 13:39:28 -0700, "TC" wrote:


Ron Peterson wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in595998.shtml gives
an example of a high-carb vegetarian diet causing weight loss without
any reduction of calories.


Bull****. That study was crap. The only way you lose weight on a high
carb diet is thru malnourishment and or abject starvation.


Uh no



I suppose just about any diet shows a weight loss except the high
fructose soda pop diet.


Wrong again. A diet has to satiate you. That requires a diet with no
refined carbs.


Really? A couple of bananas and I am full.

You need whole food carbs. And you need animal fats and
proteins to fill you up and provide important nutrients that are
lacking in any diet that excludes animal sourced foods.


You don't need to "fill up" on animal fats and proteins to get the few
required nutrients as the rest can be found elsewhere.


IIRC, the body is inefficient at converting carbohydrates to fat so
that is a possible cause for the weight loss. Of course, the other
nutrients in a vegetarian diet might be helpful in burning calories.

--
Ron


More utter BS. The body takes refined carbs and converts them very
efficiently into body fat. Read any bio-chem textbook and you will see
in the first or second chapter that carbs easily convert to fat.


Funny how I always gain weight when I eat more fat? Of course fat has
more calories duh.


There is nothing in a vegetarian diet that is helpful in burning
calories.


Activity is the key here


And a vegetarian diet is missing a couple of dozen very
important nutrients in sufficient amounts for optimal health.
Vegetarianism is not good nutrition, regardless of how you look at it.


It is quite easy to get the required nutrients and protein on a low
fat diet. I think you are getting confused between a vegan diet and a
low fat/vegetarian diet.


Starvation of important animal-sourced nutrients will lead to weight
loss, but it will most definitely not lead to optimal health.


Oh really? So nutrient density is what causes obesity? LOL