"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
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convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
friend Mu wrote:
neighbor Caleb wrote:
If anyone else wants to share their successes or questions about
losing weight through low-calorie methods, I'd be delighted to see
them there!
Yours,
Caleb
Why don't you tell us how much you lost on the last 100 day diet,
and
how much you regained from day 101 onwards?
janice
So it is him!
Yup! It sure is me. I'll be posting on alt.support.diet.low-calorie
my
progress.
I guess one of my points is that it simply is not that difficult or
complicated to take the weight off. There is no need for people
suffer
emotional turmoil, self-doubt, etc. If they follow a sensible
dietary
approach over time, they WILL lose weight. Nothing rocket science
about it. However, following a sensible approach over time is not
easy.
I've done it before (quite simply) and I'll do it again this time --
hope it's the last time -- but regardless, it's just not that tough
to
do. I sure am a hell of a lot healthier than when I first started
this
approach in '99. I am alive, am far more physically fit, etc., etc.
Couple of points for people to remember:
There's a lot of bad advice out there competing for their attention.
It all does break down to calories in versus calories used up.
Weighing regularly is probably essential for most people. (I have a
simple balance beam system that I have found very helpful since '99
that you can read about if you search "indicator" "caleb" "balance
beam" on Google.)
Recording calories -- or at least insuring that what you eat adheres
to your dietary goals -- is important.
Regular exercise is important, although the recent research from
Pennington (Ravussin et al) shows that exercise is not a panacea and
that some of the vaunted effects of exercise (e.g., muscle speeding
up
metabolism) are not supported by current data.
Most important is just to keep at it -- put your nose down and just
keep plugging along. For every one who unreasonably assails you, you
might imagine their face at a trough, wonder exactly what their
weight
loss history is (is there a weight-loss wing of the Mayo Clinic in
their name?), etc. As Rosie used to say, "Your mileage may vary!"
And
certainly it is true that there are different strokes for different
folks.
To repeat, weight-loss is not rocket science but it still is not
easy.
Too bad we can't be like a horse in blinders that continually plows
a
road in a field, undistracted by harmful or inconsequential things.
Yours,
Caleb
Caleb, Mu here.
Counting calories is such an inexact computation as to be practically
worthless. Would you care for Mu to explain?
Cals in, cals out, thermodynamics OK, real usefulness = ZERO.
Reg exercise is of no real ongoing value for overconsumption control,
so
few can or elect to do so. Scratch that.
Rubbish...plenty of successful weight loss has been achieved with the
assistance of exercise.
The National Weight Control Registry has been studying the common
characteristcs and strategies employed by folks who've lost significant
amounts of weight (avg. 30 kg) and kept it off for five years or longer.
According to their research, their subjects "also appear to be highly
active: they reported expending approximately 11830 kJ/wk (2825 kcal/wk)
through physical activity". That's an average of 400 calories per day
in
physical activity...or, about an hour of fairly vigorous effort.
The act of commiting oneself to an exercise program can also help with
the
"overconsumption control" you mention. When one is committed to getting
fit, it naturally follows that one will pay more attention to what one
ingests (at least, it does for many of us)..
Those who choose to unwisely engage in strenuous exercise while obese
typically end up being worse off when they sustain injury which often
is attributed to osteoarthritis rather than to the exercise. What is
clinically observed is that once people are lean and trim from eating
less, they find themselves more capable of exercising strenuously more
comfortably and with less injury.
Indeed, that has been my own
personal experience now physically able to run ultramarathons not
because of training but because of losing all my visceral adipose
tissue (VAT),
Hey, that's pretty cool...I'm sure many athletes would be interested in that
"training strategy". So, you're saying that you're capable of running an
ultramarathon, due only to your lowered body fat levels? Have you ever
actually completed an ultramarathon to confirm your assertion? If so,
please provide us with a link to the results web page g.
which can not be completely lost by exercise but only by
eating less down to the optimal amount which does result in becoming
hungrier that one has ever been in one's life.
Again, this obsession with hunger...the more you speak of your experience
with the 2 Pound Diet (2PD), the more it sounds like an eating disorder.
And, of course, there are many, many other benefits to being physically
active besides just the calories burned - increased cardiovascular
fitness
(strangely, whacko Chung never mentions this...perhaps he's too tired to
exercise due to his eating disorder), increased mental function,
decreased
depression, etc., etc.
Actually, my discussions with Don Kirkman about personally being
physically active remain in the Google archives to prove that you
remain untruthful.
You may have made some silly and unproven claims as to your physical
prowess, but the vast majority of your advice to others is to lose weight
only by focusing on becoming hungry...you never mention the health and/or
weight loss benefits of physical activity.
If your intent has been to deceive, you have now provided evidence for
you to be judged a liar.
If your intent has been to insult me, you have failed yet again.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convects
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirot/TheWay
Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardialogy.com