"Moosh" wrote in message . ..
On 27 Jan 2004 11:46:06 -0800, (tcomeau) posted:

Ron Ritzman wrote in message . ..
On 26 Jan 2004 07:21:46 -0800, (tcomeau) wrote:

Fat storage occurs when there are excess calories about.
Without these, no fat storage occurs.
To get fat, you have to eat too much. End of story.
Unless you want to get into why folks eat too much. I don't.


Here is an interesting question for you.

What is the precise mechanism that allows the body to know that there
is an overabundance of calories and to start storing it as fat? What
mechanism is there for the individual cells to register that it has
its maximum intake of calories? Are all nutrients broken down to their
basic energy values at all times in every circumstance? How does the
body gauge that it has consumed more energy than needed and how does
it then know to store the excess?

Fat cells are always storing and releasing fat simultaneously. Insulin
makes fat cells release a little less and store a little more,
glucagon and certain other hormones have the opposite effect. When a
cell needs extra energy above and beyond what is provided by glucose,
it uses some of the fat floating around in the bloodstream. The fat
that is released that is not used by cells goes back into the fat
cells. Therefore, if you eat more calories then you burn, the fat
cells store more fat then they release and you gain fat, if you eat
less then you burn, then the fat cells release more fat then they
store and you lose fat.

"Insulin" is not the cause of fat gain, it's the primary mechanism the
body uses to store excess fat if there is excess fat to be stored.
There are other mechanisms however. Therefore, if you were to consume
8000 calories of oil a day, you would gain weight despite the lack of
insulin.

Which one is it? Is it the excess fat in the blood stream that
triggers fat storage or is it high insulin levels?

Does it have to be one or the other in your understanding?

And what "other mechanisms"?

I suggest you read up on all the other mechanisms.

Moosh

You guys can't even explain the basics of how excess calories causes
the body to store fat. Yep, sounds real convincing. You guys better
read up, 'cause I have, and I know you guys don't know how excess
calories trigger the body to store fat.

TC