" wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
" wrote:

Geez, I would
expect that researchers at a place like Cornell Medical center would
have the basic sense to test for this, which would be trivial.

If so I'd sure like to see the data that compares folks
put on a diet more restrictive than Atkins Induction
without the surgery compared to folks forced into it
because of the surgery.

How is the diet of a gastric bypass patient more restrictive than
Atkins induction?

Based on this I can't tell if you have no idea what foods
are eaten by folks fresh out of by pass surgery or by
folks fresh on Induction. Given your history of willfully
ignoring parts of Atkins both.

AFAIK, they are free to eat reasonable amounts of
carbs and aren't even close to induction.

No. At-kids are allowed whatever it takes to get through
cravings then use the appetite suppression of ketonuria
to taper down portions - rule 5 of Induction. Bypass
folks start out well under 1000 calories and taper back
up on a time scale of multiple months. They eat both
low carb and low fat.

They must be eating
plenty of something, because in most cases patients lose about 1/3 of
their weight and while not morbidly obese, remain overweight or obese,
yet apparently the type 2 disappears.

To me the mystery of lap band or by pass is how they
avoid starvation mode symptoms like T3 reduction.

This bypass effect results in remission within days.

As opposed to Atkins Induction which appears to do
the same with probably lower result percentages.

It would be interesting to hear from the type 2's here as to whether
Atkins induction made their type 2 disappear within days.

Absolutely.