On May 6, 3:55*pm, Doug Freyburger wrote:
" wrote:

A very curious attack, because regular
readers here should know that over the years, I've provided many
excerpts directly from Atkins books and similar references to backup
what I've stated. * You, on the other hand, never do, despite being
asked to do so.

Incorrect. *I've given you numerous citations and quotes.

LOL, I'll leave it for others to judge who has frequently cited
Atkins, complete with page, and who just posts and insists that it is
so, without any reference. Your most cherished reference is your
own "internet observations", which you claim to log and spew forth as
fact. Remember when you made up the story that Dr. Agatston, the
creator of the South Beach diet, worked at the Atkins Center and got
the basis for his South Beach diet via that route? Hmmm? Did you
provide a citation for that falsehood? In the course of that thread,
other people had problems with how you frequently state personal
opinion as if it were established fact and can't distinguish between
the two.



You responded with disagreement and blindly stuck to
your own simple minded interpretations.

No, I gave you the Atkins page and excerpts on many occasions. Like
when someone asks if they can stay on induction for longer than 2
weeks and you tell people that induction should only last 2 weeks and
Atkins had a hard check list of conditions that must be met for it to
go longer. That was BS. Or when you claimed Atkins said that
moving past induction to higher carb levels results in faster weight
loss. That was BS as well. On both those, I provided you citations
from Atkins book, complete with pages. You provided zippo, while
continuing to spout those two assertions as if they were Atkins
truths.


*As a result I
long ago wrote you off. *You get all the citation responses
your prior history justifies. *It isn't requests for citations I
ignore - It's your requests I ignore. *And until you start
paying attention to folks who disagree with your points
and show that you are able to learn based on evidence
that status will continue.

In other words, as usual, you have zippo to support your position.
I even gave you the citation for the rat study that you questioned the
existence of, and were obviously too lazy to go find yourself. It
goes a long way to smashing your conjecture that food intake is
responsible for the remission in diabetes. Just as I stated, when we
first got into this, the researchers were not so stupid as to not have
done a valid study, with diet held constant, so as to eliminate it as
a factor. And guess what? The diabetes disappears with the duodenum
bypass and returns when it's restored, with the same diet.

In an attempt to bring some balance to the discussion, I included a
reference to the Washington Post story, that discusses the whole
diabetes gastric bypass issue in what I think is a pretty fair way.

As far as being written off, I take that as good news. I've written
you off as a big blow hard long ago. But I still won't let you own
the newsgroup and spout your nonsense, without it going challenged.