On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 07:11:46 -0700 (PDT), "
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Mostly, yes. Which is why it's almost impossible to find the *actual*
virus in any person with AIDS.

A good example of a huge big denialist lie.

In probably 99.999% of AIDS cases, the actual virus is never even
looked for, much less found. *Only the *antibodies* are found!


Yes indeed. Just like in 99.999% of hepatitis cases the
actual virus is never looked for.

Nor is it ever found. Very similar to HIV, HCV is probably a
"passenger" virus, that rears it's ugly head only after a certain
amount of damage has been done to the liver, from abusing drugs,
alcohol, etc.

http://www.healtoronto.com/hepc.html

As for looking for the actual virus, in the case of AIDS,
we do have tests that measure the actual amount of
virus in the patients body.

No, we do not. But most importantly, they're extremely rarely used
anyway, relying instead on antibody tests and clinical observations.

We're killing all these people simply because of antibody tests!

AIDS is caused by poor diet, not enough sleep,
recreational drug use, or too much sex
This is something that anyone can test on him/herself.

Any takers?

That exact experiment has been performed for 30
years and continues to be performed today.

Yes, people continue to live the drug-abusive lifestyle, have
promiscuous male sex with hundreds of partners a month, take AIDS
drugs, etc., and they continue to die. Some "experiment," eh?

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.

We have study after study of recreational drug users,
prostitutes, gay men, hemophiliacs, blood
transfusion recipients. And all say exactly the
same thing. Absent HIV infection people in those
groups do not get AIDS despite having exactly
the same set of risk factors.

The vast majority of smokers never get lung cancer. Thus, some people
who live this lifestyle can survive longer than others can. But if
they live it long enough, burning the candle at both ends, etc., they
will eventually destroy their immune systems -- and die. Either from
their lifestyle, lack of nutrition, or from being given AIDS drugs.

You abuse your immune system at your own risk.

--
Dogman

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman