On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 10:26:07 +1000, Who_me?
wrote:
On 14/08/11 3:21 AM, BlueBrooke wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 23:43:41 +1000,
wrote:
I'd venture to say that most people claiming to do
Atkins are not actually following the plan. So, I
would not put much credence in casual comments
from people claiming to do Atkins without finding
out exactly what they are actually doing.
Nothing casual about my comments, I have tried Atkins, exactly as Atkins
taught and it was not a good diet.
Didn't I just read, from you: "There are no such things as bad diets,
there are only bad dieters." ?
From the point of view of losing weight, yes. I also noted at the same
time that some diets are less healthy than others. Atkins like any diet
that cuts calories, works. From a general health and fitness point of view
it sucks.
I went from Atkins to increased carbs,
basically cutting all processed carbs but not cutting back on carbs from
fresh food, even high carb fruit and vegetables. That worked - I have
energy and I maintain a very low body fat percentage.
This right here shows you did *not* do Atkins as written.
Er, um - Bull****.
Your post implies that fresh foods, including high carb fruit and
vegetables, are not allowed on Atkins. This statement is untrue. So,
either you didn't bother to actually get the books, or read the
website, but instead relied on rumor and innuendo, or you never made
it past Induction and/or OWL. This is not doing Atkins "exactly as
Atkins taught."
Ongoing Weight Loss (OWL):
There are . . . two key distinctions between the first [Induction] and
second [OWL] phases of Atkins: the slightly broader array of healthful
acceptable foods in OWL and the gradual increase in overall carb
intake. These foods include nuts and seeds (which you may already be
eating if you spent more than two weeks in Induction), berries and a
few other relatively low-carb fruits, a wider array of dairy products,
a few vegetable juices and legumes such as lentils and kidney beans.
Still, despite eating more carbs and gradually introducing a greater
variety of them, it’s best to regard these two changes as baby steps.
Perhaps the biggest mistake you can make when you move from Induction
to OWL is to regard the transition as dramatic.
http://www.atkins.com/Program/Phase2...ivesofOWL.aspx
Carboyhydrate Level for Losing (CLL):
There is a tremendous range of carbohydrate tolerances. A high one
could mean a CLL of 60 to 80 grams or even more. Still others find
that they can’t move much beyond the 25 grams of Net Carbs that
initiate OWL. If you’re losing less than a pound a week on average,
you’re probably close to your CLL and should not increase your carb
intake. If your weight loss rate picks up, you may be able to raise
your carb intake slightly.
Your CLL is influenced by your age, gender, level of physical
activity, hormonal issues, medications you may be taking and other
factors such as whether you’ve repeatedly lost and regained weight.
Again, younger people and men tend to have an advantage. Increasing
your activity level or exercise program may or may not raise it. No
matter what your tolerance for carbs, however, it’s perfectly normal
to lose in fits and starts. The scale isn’t a perfect tool to measure
the positive changes you’re experiencing, which is why we recommend
weight averaging.
http://www.atkins.com/Program/Phase2...ngYourCLL.aspx
Pre-Maintenance:
In Pre-Maintenance, you’ll have the opportunity to reintroduce the
whole foods carbohydrates that have been off-limits until now. They
appear on the top three rungs of the Carb Ladder: fruit higher in
carbs, starchy vegetables and whole grains. Some people can eat all
these foods; others can eat only some, eat only in small portions or
eat them only rarely. Others find they do best when they simply stay
away from higher-carb foods that might cause weight regain or make it
difficult to stay in control. In Phase 3, you’ll learn what works—and
what doesn’t work—for you.
http://www.atkins.com/Program/Phase3...intenance.aspx