"vlcd_hell" wrote in message
om...
Boy, you people love to attack other fellow members, huh? Envisioning
the very worst scenarios possible about them. I have to say other
forums have been much less attacking, much more helpful, and on the
whole come across as a much more optimistic and cheerful lot.

I have yet to respond to any of your posts, until now. I've been reading
your saga since your first novella you posted. People around here have
responded thoughtfully, kindly, directly, and indirectly. You've ignored
requests for more detailed information, expecting the people here to read
your mind and know what you mean, or wade through pages of quasi-coherent
ramblings to figure out what you want.

I was just offering my tips, for what has worked for me, as the
hardest loser I've seen in comparison to anyone else I've ever run
across. I've lost 70lbs. 175lb seems to be the ballpark average range
for men I hang with. Perhaps I have to get more realistic toward the
dream of being a 120lb hill climber again despite approaching middle
age and particularly wanting a cut muscled physique I didn't have in
racing days. There is some question about whether I should be in
athlete mode on my Tanita scale, which might suggest I'm actually 14%
BF instead of 26% in standard non-athletic mode. I know from
experimentation which regimens happen to work for me. Been doing this
annual "lose the off-season weight" dance for enough years of my life.

So maybe instead you should adopt a sensible WOE to keep you more constant
throughout the year? Just a thought...

But heck, everyone is different. My input seems to be rocking the boat
and sharing my non-average experiences appears to not be appreciated
here. I'm not getting any useful non-dime-store-mantra info here, and
where I spend most of my free hours either working out or quality time
at home, I don't have the free time to devote to this seeming exercise
in futility. My time is better personally spent working out. I'll get
out of your hair where my CRAN approaches won't rock your high calorie
boats.

You've gotten tons of good advice, the best I've seen, including seeking
some serious therapy.

Not that you deserve to know, and sorry to disappoint your
schadenfreude fun toward fellow members, but I happen to be quite
happy and sound both mentally and emotionally and even physically.

And yet your posts don't reflect that in the least....

can out-run and out-bike all but the elite runners and cyclists (who
tend to be younger than me). I am healthy with no ailments. Married
and employed and looking forward to this romantic weekend. And now, on
the vanity front, the split routine and extra protein seems to be
making a difference in the looks department. I am now clearly
beginning to see a cut look start coming through, where even though
there is still some fat getting in the way of the musculature
presently, that cut build IS there underneath. That is very empowering
and reassuring to physically see. All I have to do is to continue this
split lifting routine, continue this protein-rich lower-calorie eating
routine, and let the natural annual increase in my running and cycling
workout durations and especially intensity (intervals!) this time of
year (as spring cycling season approaches) work off some of the
remaining fat covering the muscles. Feedback from friends in last
weekend's hot tub was "dude, you're not as fat as you think you are!"
Still have a ways to go, but perhaps I'm closer to 14% BF than 26% BF.
And happily, I still have several months to make good progress in.

And yet your posts don't reflect that in the least... (again)

Ig, I posted my food logging several times now, yet you keep ignoring
it. No skin off my teeth.

Where have you posted an actual food log?!? Some vague accounting of stuff
you might have eaten, no measurements, etc. You haven't posted anything of
the sort and for chrissake you now have me defending IG!!

Good luck y'all in your own personal physique transformations. Don't
let others derail you if your own personal regimen happens to work for
you despite ridicule from these people, you have to consider the
source, this isn't exactly a forum chock full of winning athletes
(where they even call each other FFID, some group). Really hope each
of you make your personal goals. See you out at the races in a few
months where I'll be chasing mine...

Hey dipwad...I haven't chimed in until now, but *I* was on a real VLCD, 800
cal/day for 10 months and lost 150 pounds. Get over yourself. Sorry we
didn't all group hug and sing kumbayah for you, but you got some decent and
sensible advice. The fact that you have a distorted body image and
unrealistic expectations is not a reflection on the treatment you've
received here.

Jenn