On Sep 24, 3:52*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:07:03 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:

[...]

Visceral fat = "wheat belly"
I would love to see the studies that show that visceral fat is
specific
to wheat, as opposed to other causes, including refined carbs from
sources other than wheat.

Read the book.
As usual, you have no studies.

As usual, you expect others to do the work for you.

Note: Visceral fat isn't *specific* to wheat (those are your words,
not mine),


Must have been someone else sitting at your keyboard
that typed this:

"Visceral fat = "wheat belly"


And when I questioned if there was a study that showed
visceral fat was specific to wheat as opposed to say refined
carbs in general, must have been someone else sitting at
your keyboard that replied that I should read the Wheat Belly book.



but wheat causes visceral fat (the worst kind). Two slices
of bread will raise your blood sugars more than a Snickers candy bar,
a can of Coke, etc.

Let's look at the facts:

http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm

I'm not a fan on Dr Mendosa, but he has a good list of the
glycemic load of various foods. On it we find:

Wonder Bread 30g GL 10
Snickers 60g GL 15 to 23
Coke 250ml GL 16

Those are per the serving size listed and they seem
reasonable to me.


So, it's hard for me to get my shorts up in a knot that
wheat is somehow uniquely bad and worse than
drinking coke or eating a snickers bar. Even if you
double the bread serving, it's still in the GL range of
the snickers bar. And IMO, it's a lot easier to swill
down several cokes than it is to eat six slices of bread.


Why anyone who purports to be on a low-carb diet
would ever eat a Snickers candy bar, drink a can of Coke, or eat two
slices of bread, escapes me.

Maybe because once in a while they feel like it
and they aren't an extremist. I'm not saying everyone
should do it, but if it works for some, it doesn't bother
me.





You claim that you eat/ate low-carb "just to lose a few pounds"

I never said any such thing.


(hopefully, you've lost them by now and can go someplace else?)

I've been here a lot longer than you.





but
most people eat low-carb to lose more than just a few pounds, to avoid
or cure diabetes, to avoid or cure metabolic syndrome, to get off of
medicines, to improve their overall health markers, etc, so my posts
aren't aimed at you. They're aimed at them.

You're just an ignorant, ankle-biting asshole -- and a TROLL.


And you're the poster who claims:

HIV isn't the cause of AIDS
HIV is harmless
Diet and lack of sleep cause AIDS
No virus can cause cancer
HPV isn't a cause of cervical cancer.

Folks can evaluate the quality of your scientific knowledge
and then decide who's the ignorant one.