On Aug 13, 8:26*pm, Who_me? wrote:
On 14/08/11 3:21 AM, BlueBrooke wrote:

On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 23:43:41 +1000,
wrote:

I'd venture to say that most people claiming to do
Atkins are not actually following the plan. *So, I
would not put much credence in casual comments
from people claiming to do Atkins without finding
out exactly what they are actually doing.

Nothing casual about my comments, I have tried Atkins, exactly as Atkins
taught and it was not a good diet.

Didn't I just read, from you: *"There are no such things as bad diets,
there are only bad dieters." *?

*From the point of view of losing weight, yes. I also noted at the same
time that some diets are less healthy than others. Atkins like any diet
that cuts calories, works. From a general health and fitness point of view
it sucks.



I went from Atkins to increased carbs,
basically cutting all processed carbs but not cutting back on carbs from
fresh food, even high carb fruit and vegetables. That worked - I have
energy and I maintain a very low body fat percentage.

This right here shows you did *not* do Atkins as written.

Er, um - Bull****.

I'd say it,s you who is full of BS. You come in to a low carb
newsgroup
and proclaim that the Atkins diet, which is probably the most popluar
and successful low carb diet, is "ludicroulsy unhealthy". Then you
stated:

" I developed a diet that has kept me fit for decades, and
recently I have seen that it is very similar to the much vaunted Dr
Dukan's
diet. Strange thing that. "

I've never heard of the Dukan diet before. Never seen it mentioned
here by anyone that I can recall in over 10 years in this low carb
group. . So, unlike you, who rejected a suggestion to take a look
at some of Gary Taubes work, I decided to take a look at what
the Dukan diet entails:

"http://www.dukandiet.com/The-Dukan-Diet/4-Phases

Phase 1 - ATTACK
The Attack phase consists of pure protein and creates a kick-start to
the diet. During this phase, you can eat 68 high-protein foods that
produce immediate and noticeable weight loss."

You claimed the Atkins diet was unhealthy because it produced ketosis.
What the hell do you think the above will produce?


"Phase 2 - CRUISE
The Cruise phase adds 32 vegetables and will take you to your True
Weight. You will gradually but steadily lose weight by alternating
Pure Protein days and Protein + Vegetables days. The average length of
this phase is based on a schedule of 3 days for each pound you want to
lose.

Phase 3 - CONSOLIDATION
During this time you are at your most vulnerable, as the body has a
tendency to quickly regain lost pounds. The Consolidation Phase is
designed to prevent the rebound effect by gradually returning
previously forbidden foods and allowing for two “celebration" meals
per week.

Phase 4 - PERMANENT STABILIZATION
This phase is the rest of your life! You have learned how to eat
healthily in the previous phases and have developed a pattern to
follow."

Sounds like another guy with a plan similar to Atkins. In fact, it's
MORE
radical than Atkins, as it starts out at zero carbs. Then, like
Atkins,
it introduces more vegetable in the next phase, increasing the carb
level. Yet you have
the nerve to call the Atkins plan "ludicroulsy unhealthy". And you
say
you believe fat is good, even beneficial, yet you endorse this guys
diet that is pure protein at the start.

In short, I think you're just plain clueless and don't know what
you're talking about.