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Old August 4th, 2012, 12:47 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default Dieting vs. Exercise for Weight Loss

On Aug 3, 7:25*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 16:00:36 -0700 (PDT), "





wrote:
On Aug 3, 6:21 pm, Dogman wrote:


Of course, as usual, if one reads the actual article instead
of relying on your hysteria, the research doesn't say what
you or even the authors say it does. What the researchers
concluded was this:


"The implication, the scientists concluded, is that active,
traditional lifestyles may not protect against obesity if diets
change to promote increased caloric consumption. That is, even active
people will pack on pounds if they eat like most of us in the West."


That's exactly what I've been saying. You just cant read for
comprehension.


No you said excercise won't help one lose weight, period.
The above doesn't say any such thing and is something very different,.



And now you're *complaining* about studies?!


Not complaining. *Just pointing out that the article

says only
a few studies on the subject have even been done.


How many studies do *you* have that say otherwise?


I'm not the one making the claim that exercise while
dieting doesn't lead to increased weight loss. You
are. Ergo, it's up to you to come up with the studies.
The one article that you provided TALKS about a study
and concludes with exactly the opposite, basicly
ending with an endorsement of exercise.



Make up your freakin' mind.


So,
sounds like the answer is we don't know exactly what is going on.


Of course we do! The study showed that many people gain weight when
they exercise.


The report on the study that you provided the link to
does not say the study showed that at all. * But at
least for once you have a link to something. * Now if
you could just learn to read what is there instead of
making it up.....


The articles words speak for themselves.


Yes and the article doesn't say what you claimed it
does. And in fact it concludes with endorsing excercise
as part of a weight loss program.


And then we end with this gem:


" She is perhaps her own best advertisement. In the past few years,
she s shed 70 pounds and, using her formulas for how many calories
she s actually burning each day thanks to a daily walk, has regained
none of it."


But it says ZERO about her diet! Plus, she didn't lose the weight
through exercise. It was through diet (counting calories is a form of
diet).


We're not taking about her diet. *We're talking about the
fact that she includes walking excercise as part of her
weight loss program.


Yet she said:

"But repeated studies have shown that many people who begin an
exercise program lose little or no weight. Some gain."

Focus on those words, say them slowly, and see if, over the nxt few
days or weeks, they eventually make some sense to you. *Feel free to
hire a tutor!


Just like study after study has shown that at 1 or 2 years
after starting a diet, people have similarly failed and
put the weight back on and maybe more too.

Capiche?



Only a moron could come to that conclusion, which is why it's a waste
of time discussing anything with you.


Yes, it's a waste of time for you to discuss anything with
anyone with even reasonable intelligence.


That would mean that we couldn't discuss anything, right, because
you're waaaaay below the "reasonable intelligence" line.

Yet I persist, mostly because it's really fun to make a fool out of
you.


Yes, tell everyone here one more time how
HIV isn't the cause of AIDS. Tell them how it's
caused by lack of sleep. Tell them how no virus
can cause cancer. I want everyone to see
what you are and then they can judge for themselves.

What, you're not going to compare yourself to
Galileo again for us?