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Old April 21st, 2010, 07:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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Default "Fruits are great for you!". Really?

Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:

The idea that fruits are good is fine for someone who's never gotten fat
in the first place. It's a load of nonsense for those of us have gotten
fat.


I highly doubt that people have actually gotten fat from fruit as their only
carbohydrate source. Most people get fat from eating refined sugars, flour and
high starch root vegetables.


All well and good for those who never got fat in the first place.
Getting fat in the first place changes the situation. What once was
okay is no longer okay.

Fruits are great for folks who think french fries count against their
daily 5 servings of veggies. Have you even seen what a serving is? The
salads I often have with dinner are tiny but they count as 2 servings!
I come closer to 10 servings of veggies per day than to 5 when I take
into account the tiny size of a serving. To think that some folks eat a
medium serving of fries at Burger King and count it as their 5 servings
for the day, no matter even something as bad as a banana is supposed to
be beneficial. But it isn't compared to real food. Bananas are candy
without being called that.


I resent the implication that a naturally occurring phenomenon such as fruit is
in your opinion not real food.


I have no idea where you pulled such nonsense from. Bananas may be
fine for those who have never gotten fat in the first place. Getting
fat in the first place changes that. That's how illnesses often work.
Obesity is a disfunction of the metabolism and one of the symptoms of
that disorder, for those of us who succeed with low carb, is that some
foods that were harmless before we got fat in the first place are now
harmful. A food being real or not have liitle to do with that.

But just how beneficial are bananas even for those who have never got
fat in the first place? If we use the model of how foods work in the
wild then to eat bananas a person would have to search through a jungle
to find them. That includes climbing trees to evade leopards, throwing
sharp sticks at small animals, then encountering small numbers of banana
plants that happen to have non-ripe bananas ready for the eating.
That's not the story of a modern human eating a banana. And it's
definitely not the story of a modern human who has already gotten fat
and who therefore can't handle sugar in any quantity any more.

Someone who never got fat in the first place should not eat a pile of
bananas twice the size of their head because that much fruit will give
them the runs. Someone already fat and carb sensative should avoid the
first banana during their loss phases and possibly even during
maintenance depending on how carb sensative they are.