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Old June 8th, 2009, 02:37 AM posted to soc.support.fat-acceptance,misc.fitness.weights,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Billy
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Default Expert: It's your fault if you're a fatty

In article
,
Misanthropic Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Jun 5, 6:21 am, Billy wrote:
[snip]
thin, is mostly a matter of genetics.


Complete mythology - propagated by the lazy and the dull.


What's misanthrope doing interacting socially?


Sharing the love.

I'd be surprised if you even had a nodding relationship with love,
neurotic need to feel important, but love? Nah.

And what state of grace, allows you to cast
invectives in such a gratuitous manner?


Being honest.

Honesty would be constraining yourself to the facts, and not
characterizing others or their motives.


Apparently, up to 1994, there was little consideration of genetics
impacting obesity. That is no longer the case. Genetic predisposition
will make it harder for some people to gain or lose weight.


Harder, perhaps. By what perventage/ratio?
Not impossible or even difficult, though eh? Instead of loosing 5
kilos such a 'geneticially challenged' person might only loose 4
kilos. But that is all the excuse the butter-balls need, eh?

Oh, I forgot to mention that ad hominem attacks ALWAYS signal a weak, or
non-existent, argument. Argument that is in the formal sense, where you
connect a number of assertions to support a position. It appears to be
absent from your bag of tricks.



Body mass is a result of nature and nurture, genetics and environment.


Part of that 'environment' is being able to pull oneself away from the
Twinkie display.



If you live in a country that produces 50% more calories
than the population needs, you have a good chance of
being obese,


Your value sytem, and the poor esteem you hold fellow man in in
implying that mankind cant control themselve when a surfeit of
calories abounds, brings a tear to an old misanthropic curmudgeons
eye.

Lack of modesty will never be counted as one of your faults. A
deterministic man in charge of his own destiny. Bwahahaha. Right, and
thats why those fools at Krafts, and whatever Phillip Morris is calling
them selves these days, and Post Cereals spent $11.26 billion in 2004 on
advertising. It works because most people are too busy keeping their
bills paid, the dishes and the clothes washed, the house picked up,
preparing dinner, to keep up with the latest nutrient break through,
much less keep up with the development of a police state around them.

See: Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3LSyck0YTE

or if you're still literate try reading

Food Politics: How the Food Industry Influences Nutrition, and Health,
Revised and Expanded Edition (California Studies in Food and Culture)
by Marion Nestle
http://www.amazon.com/Food-Politics-...lifornia/dp/05
20254031/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244222934&sr=1-2

time for us to accept that we are good as we are.


Mediocrity is fine by you?

[snip]
What about average do you find disturbing?


Those that settle for it.

Everybody should be above average, Gracie?
Human beings aren't widgets, to be compared one to another.
We have a diversity of skills and capabilities, which keeps our
Darwinistic options open for us as a species. The problem may be that
you don't see the problem.



I'm sure that not everyone would find that a Misanthropic
Curmudgeon would be the person that they would
choose to be cornered by at a party.


True: some people dont like honesty and forthrightness, as it pushes
them from thier nice safe little self-deluding comfort zones

True, I can feel the nausea myself. I think I've already wasted too much
time here reading your delusional honesty and forthrightness. It must be
lonely for you with those brown colored glasses on.




Swimming is great exercise and it doesn't impact
your joints.


Swimming is idle recreation (but midly cardiovasuclarly taxing for
those with poor oxygen uptake abilities) and it is a myth that is 'low
stress on joints' - ask anybody with connective tissue damage.


So, you've gone from being a curmudgeon to being a head case. What is
wrong with idle recreation? It relieves stress that can kill you.


True: but to suggets that it is phtical activity is self-delusional


Being in water allows the flexing of muscles
without support.


Ahhh, what do you think muscles are for?



Dog paddling, or just floating on your back may
be a good way to begin.


If that is your frame of reference, I'll order up the 600kg bed hoise
for you now, shall I?




Before anyone listens to us, they should ask
their doctor what they think.


Given that most GP's are fat-accepters, fat-condoners, and/or stuck on
the 'eat- a truck load of pasta and you'll loose weight, but for gods
sake dont eat more than three eggs a week', and are illness focused
and not health focused (there is a onstrous difference, I say with no
pun intended) most of what GP says on this subject can be ignored.




Otherwise, try to exercise 2 1/2 hr a week. Walking,
biking, gardening, or just doing stretches on a mat.


Anybody who considers walking or stretching as specific excercise
needs to re-evaluate their definition of normal. Like breathing,
these thinsg should be normal parts of everyones day, not exceptions
to be 'acheived'.


Walking continuously for 30 - 60 min. is not part of everyone's life.


Precisly. That is why they are geletonous blobs who pour themselves
in and out of tehir car just to go to the local shop for a sugar-laden
donut or 24.



Getting on the floor and reaching for your toes isn't
an everyday experience for most people, or even you.


It is, actually. And a lot more besides.



It's not everyday that I meet Misanthropic Curmudgeon who is
orthographically challenged (5, can you find them?).


Only 5? I did well that day.

--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Zunx_goz4


http://www.democracynow.org/2009/6/2...ra_hass_on_the