Dogman wrote:
Susan wrote:
Dogman wrote:

Unfortunately, most folks don't even know that they're following
Ornish. It's just the only thing they know.

Most folks aren't even close to eating Ornish style. It was MISERY, and
took a great deal of vigilance and planning, not just low fat.

Yes, there are differences, but I just lump Ornish in (rightly or
wrongly) with the low-fat, high-carb, grains galore crowd.

The first low fat book I remember reading was "The T-Factor Diet" in the
1980s. It was definitely not the founding book of the modern low fat
era.